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Fully Charged in Just 6 Minutes – Groundbreaking Technique Could Revolutionize EV Charging::Typically, it takes around 10 hours to charge an electric vehicle. Even with fast-charging techniques, you're still looking at a minimum of 30 minutes – and that's if there's an open spot at a charging station. If electric vehicles could charge as swiftly as we refill traditional gas vehicles, it wo

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[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

most EV cars are more like 60kwh though.

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The person above you said Tesla. Most newer Tesla models are 75 kWh-120kWh.

[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Oh damn, I didn’t realize Tesla started making the standard range again. When I got my LR RWD in 2018, they were not selling the SR anymore. However, their Model Y starts at 75kWh, and their Model S and X are only 100kWh now.

[-] zoe@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

yea, 100kwh is too few. 170kwh would be ideal (for a model 3). The models S and X should have had a 250kwh pack, to support that needlessly fast acceleration.

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think 100kWh is ideal for a Model 3. I drove my LR RWD across the US (MS to CA to WA) and didn’t really have an issue. It was only bad when it got really cold outside, so having an extra 30% would cover that. It would have about 400 miles of range on a full charge, and 20 mins at a super charger would get you from 10% to 80%, so 300 miles, or another 4 hours of driving.

[-] zoe@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

600Km in a single charge ? 450 km mileage in 20 minutes ? i am surprised. although i would feel more safe if a 20min stop adds another 150km (yea, 30% increase in battery size would be cool) (but how about running ac, towing stuff ? that could really decrease the efficiency) nonetheless, home charging is costly if u plan on adding 70kwh ever night to ur utility bill. so as a commuter, i should predict a 20 min stop to supercharge cheaply before getting home. then tomorrow, another stop mid day.. Superchargers will be congested if this isn't adressed, u hav a factor of 20x to tackle: people would fuel up with gasoline in a 1 minute or so instead, if everyone where to have EVs

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

At home, most people are only charging about 10-20% every night. For 100kWh, let’s say 20kWh, which is 60 miles. Most people at home will be using a 240v 50A outlet, which outputs 12kW. You’d be done charging in about 2 hours at 95% efficiency for 21kWh from the outlet (heat loss and whatnot does take a significant portion of charging). At my place with $0.13/kWh, that would just be a measly $2.75 at 95% efficiency. Wayyyy cheaper than gas. That’s around the same as a car with 85mpg at $4/gal gas. Most cars are around 30mpg on a good day.

[-] zoe@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

a Mk6 diesel would do 60mpg..but again, prices would also influence this. Yea well, as long as electricity stays cheap, and cost of the supercharger stays also low, then that would be a viable choice (i wonder how much 1kwh costs at a supercharger?). Also, when a company judges a product is too good, it would pull a premium from its ass just to drain money from its customers, especially, in the case of OTA connected cars like Teslas, anything could happen. Lithium mining becoming too expensive: u only get to use 75kwh only of ur battery (idk, similar non sense.. remains to be seen, depends on a company goodwill..like when they retracted free supercharging from Legacy S and X owners, straight rug pull) . Also again, cheap electricity would imply congested superchargers in the future :/

[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

diesel is literally destroying the planet with both particulate and CO2. I'd factor that into the costs. I'd rather pay 200% more for electricity if it means we can sleep at night knowing I'm not poisoning the environment to drive around everyday. You can literally use solar panels to charge your car and batteries can be 99% efficiently recycled. yes tyre dust is still a huge problem we need to fix. but petrol and diesel need to die asap and not be considered as viable options.

[-] zoe@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

a car releases alot of fine particles, i agree, even brake pads release particles. fossil is not only polluting but it is also finite as a ressource, and also is uranium. air travel is addicted to fossil and that needs to stop: electric powered trains could make for a good alternative, but u would need long stretches of land to produce enough energy to satisfy these needs through solar, while waiting for fusion tech to be unlocked

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