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The Last Jedi.
I left the theater on opening night thrilled with what I saw. I couldn't wait to go online and read all the positive reactions and theories for the next one... Whelp.
I mean... opinions can be wrong...
Same. I've found it helps to just not look at what general purpose "fans" have to say about pretty much anything. It's always gonna be a hatefest.
In my experience the most hateful fans are the TLJ fans. The whole "people that don't like this brilliant masterpiece are stupid idiots" thing is rampant.
Ever try to have a conversation about Rise of Skywalker on the internet? Most interesting of all of the Star Wars movie and conversation about it gets jammed by non-stop hateful spam.
i commented the same exact thing then saw this comment lol. was very polarizing to see. its still my top 3 star wars films
Was scrolling for this comment. I spent a few nights excitedly going over it with my friends before I learned about the internet meltdown, it was utterly baffling. I still can't really fathom it, it's one of the best SW movies ever made imo.
I can't fathom why you can't fathom why people didn't like. But sure, I'll bite.
It didn't have a story. It's unoriginal, basically the plots of ESB and RotJ thrown into a blender with the point of everything removed and little to no connection between any of the various plots.
The name Star Wars is synonymous with action adventure and TLJ didn't have any satisfying action scenes. Rey is relegated to a support role, she does more meaningful action in the trailer to RoS than she does in all of TLJ.
Luke Skywalker represents hope and in TLJ hope dies because Disney didn't want to pay Mark Hamill for more than one movie. Cameos should be enough for the fans, right? Think of the money the Disney coporation saved by killing hope!
There's many more reasons it didn't work for a lot of people but those are the big ones.
I wasn't asking for someone to explain why they didn't like it thanks. We went through that six years ago.
Just trying to help you fathom things.
I enjoyed Rise of Skywalker but I can understand the reasons why people didn't like it. It has been six years, can you still not admit you understand the criticisms of a movie? I mean it's fine to enjoy a movie despite it's flaws, there's no need to pretend that it's perfect.
"I can't fathom it" doesn't mean "I haven't heard the criticisms of this movie". I mean that I remain surprised at how long lasting and vitriolic the hate for it is, as you're demonstrating by popping in to complain about how toxic last jedi fans are while also trying to tell me what you hate about a thing I love.
And I know you don't mean it that way but goddamn am I tired of having a conversation like this every time I mention liking the movie online for more than half a decade.
I was thoroughly disappointed by that movie. I think after that I sorta lost the taste for most Star Wars stuff. Baby Yoda Show was good when it came out though. And Andor.
It remains one of my favorite SW movies.