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[–] kglitch@kglitch.social 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If the the creators were serious about the monument they'd have put it far away where extremists couldn't easily bomb it. They should have been able to foresee the rise of reactionary forces as the collapse neared.

Still, plenty of time to make another.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has to be somewhere that is also accessible after an apocalypse. Where would you put this so it's "far away where extremists couldn't easily bomb it", but where it's also accessible after an apocalypse?

[–] kglitch@kglitch.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After a collapse there'd still be people nomading all over the place so they'll find it eventually, just about anywhere. Near a place likely to be valuable for hunter-gatherers like a river mouth or lake. Or at a mountain pass where travelers will be funneled towards.

Tibet? Central Australia? Mongolia? Canada? With the way climate change is going somewhere not too hot might be best. Tasmania, New Zealand, Finland, Iceland...

Maybe the makers were on a budget and needed somewhere nearby. Or maybe they just wanted to make a point and have a laugh.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After collapse you don't want people to "eventually" stumble upon them, you need them accessible so the knowledge on the stones can be used to rebuild and guide society.

And if people will eventually stumble upon them, it's waaaaay more likely to happen before the collapse, since any collapse would lead to the deaths of most people. You're constructing an incredibly unlikely scenario that will only hinder efforts to rebuild.

[–] waterbogan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Will need to make a bunch of them rather than put them where extremists cant bomb them - after all they still need to be accessible after an apocalypse. Multiple redundancy, make them cheaper, maybe less durable, but get them in so many places that there will always be a few left around. Maybe task someone with knocking out mass produced reproductions and swapping them out whenever one gets wrecked

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"The inscription read: 1)Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. 2)Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity. 3)Unite humanity with a living new language. 4)Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason. 5)Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. 6)Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. 7)Avoid petty laws and useless officials. 8)Balance personal rights with social duties. 9)Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite. 10)Be not a cancer on the Earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature."

Half of them aren't even clear like #8 which depends entirely on how much you value each. Maybe we should presuppose that our ideas are the best so we don't poison future generations with our equivalents.of eugenics.