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[–] blazera@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)
[–] transigence@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (12 children)

means well-supplied and ready to go on a moment's notice

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

In working order which is why you had to register your firearm and have it inspected to make sure it worked. And that ready to go at a moment's notice was because they were needed for the defense of the country. Public carry was banned in a good chunk of the states.

I'd say well-maintained and prepared for use. As in tools need be well-maintained to be useful.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No it doesn't lmao

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Then why are morbidly obese, middle aged men with zero combat training allowed to own guns?

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[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is part of the dependent clause. Its reasoning.

If you paid attention in English class youd know this

[–] blazera@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just a flourish of words that dont matter?

[–] pqdinfo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They set context at the time.

At the time the constitution was passed, the Bill of Rights only applied to the Federal Government. The Second Amendment basically is saying "Hey, if the Feds were to regulate guns, then States couldn't form militias and the country would be undefended because there's no standing army. So we recognize a right to own guns at a Federal level. What States do, OTOH, is up to them."

And this might have been fine, if antiquated quickly given it didn't take long for everyone to realize State Militias were a dumb idea and the US needed an Army, but for the fact that the States didn't get on, the South was basically made up of Slavery imposing tyrannies, and the end result was a civil war (which wasn't very civil, despite the name.)

And in the aftermath of that war, the 14th Amendment imposed the bill of rights on all the states. So now the states also can't interfere with the "right" to own guns, despite it never being the founder's intent that the right be recognized on any level other than Federal.

So, that's why those words are there. It's a "Hey, this might sound really weird if we don't give some context, so here's some context" preamble. And unfortunately, as such, is meaningless, especially since the 14th didn't make an exception for it (they really should have done.)

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Shall not be infringed. As someone else pointed out there's already a TRO, this is just a political stunt.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A well regulated militia shall not be infringed

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A well balanced breakfast, being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed.

In the above sentence, who has the right to keep and eat food, "the people," or "a well balanced breakfast?"

[–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounds like the balanced breakfast is the basis for everything that follows

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So if you skip breakfast you don't deserve the right to food? No lunch or dinner? Snacks ist verboten?

It clearly says the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed. You know you're wrong.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hell is this weird strawman. Im not arguing against food im telling you how a sentence is written. As written, a balanced breakfast is the entire reason people have the right to food.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] blazera@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh wow, the supreme court interpreted the constitution differently than me. I had no idea, i thought they agreed with me and banned guns long ago.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] blazera@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

our third world rates of gun homicide are wrong

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, murder is wrong, regardless of weapon used.

[–] blazera@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah im gonna regard the weapons used, which are guns

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You heard it here first folks, only gun murders count as "wrong." Murders done with knives, bats, bombs, etc? All A-OK in blazera's book, so find that coworker that microwaved fish last week and get after it!

[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this guy thinks everyone has a right to own bombs

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Well shit I guess "responsible bomb owners." That's why people can get licenses for that actually already, currently, right now in the United States of America today.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You wrote a dumb shit sentence because the militia is the cause of the clause that follows in this stance, and in your example a breakfast is not the cause for keeping food but rather breakfast food.

You made a bad example and declared it victory lol

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not a bad example, it's gramatically the exact same, and instead of admitting you're wrong you're choosing to stamp your feet like an obtuse child. You're free to do so, but everyone else is free to read your shame.

Edit: wait, different person. You're choosing to stamp your feet on behalf of another* like an obtuse child, 'scuse me.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're posting in a public forum home slice.

If you're intent on a private conversation, DMs are right there.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No no, just clarifying, you're free to be wrong all you like as well.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're as bad at being witty as you are at being correct.

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[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your right to bear arms is not infringed by specific controls.

You have a right to freedom of religion but local codes still come into okay for sacrifices/burnt offerings/etc.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden-appointed U.S. District Court Judge David Urias said during a Wednesday hearing that the order violated the Constitution.

"The violation of a constitutional right, even for minimal periods of time, unquestionably constitutes irreparable injury," Urias said during the hearing.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also disagree with the current ruling on roe v wade

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's pretty great to be me, man. My life is kickass.

[–] JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Cool. Enjoy your Saturday night on here, I'm flushing and heading out.

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