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YouTube and Reddit are sued for allegedly enabling the racist mass shooting in Buffalo that left 10 dead (fortune.com)
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YouTube and Reddit are sued for allegedly enabling the racist mass shooting in Buffalo that left 10 dead::The complementary lawsuits claim that the massacre in 2022 was made possible by tech giants, a local gun shop, and the gunman’s parents.

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[–] 30mag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nearly all of your suggestions are already part of New York state law.

Exceptions:

No registration required for non-"assault weapon" long guns.

Of course, one has to have a valid reason to have a weapon on them. Going shopping with a gun out of fear is mot a reason.

Open carry in New York is not legal. Concealed carry requires a license. I believe that requiring a reason to carry for obtaining a license to carry was recently ruled unconstitutional. I don't know whether you can legally require a reason for the act of carrying the gun.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems like New York goes in the right direction then, nice to see! I bet one sees the difference in the statistics for gun violence compared to other states of America. Umm, is NY a state or a city or both? 😂 not so sure right now

[–] 30mag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Umm, is NY a state or a city or both?

Both.

I bet one sees the difference in the statistics for gun violence compared to other states of America.

New York state's murder rate and firearm murder rate both rank in the second quartile.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state#2019_data

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you order by "Murder Rate (per 100,000) (2019)"

Do the states with less murders per 100,000 than New York have more strict gun rules? (In case you happen to know that)

[–] 30mag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everytown only ranks California higher than New York.

https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/

This is an overview of gun laws in different states:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_United_States_by_state

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everytownresearch.org looks like a really great resource! 😃thank you very much for that. So as it looks like, gun laws aren’t the only thing that influence gun violence. But if you ignore the statistical outliers then you see the correlation.

[–] 30mag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everytownresearch.org looks like a really great resource! 😃thank you very much for that.

Everytown is a gun control advocacy group. The purpose of the website is to persuade people that 1) gun control works, and 2) there is a need for more gun control. Keep that bias in mind, because their analysis of gun violence is one dimensional. That occasionally results in some conjectures about gun violence that don't make sense.

Notable strong law states like Illinois and Maryland remain plagued with high gun violence in their biggest cities—in large part because they’re targeted by traffickers. Indeed an outsized share of likely trafficked crime guns recovered in Illinois begin their journey in states with weak laws. And Virginia, which had weak gun purchase laws until 2020, has long been the top supplier of crime guns into Maryland. At the other end of the scale, states like New Hampshire, Vermont, and Rhode Island have unusually low gun death rates compared with their somewhat weaker policies, in part because they are buffered by robust laws among other states in the region.

In the first scenario, strong gun laws don't result in lower levels of gun violence because people can buy a gun in a neighboring state with weaker gun control laws. That explanation is plausible.

In the second scenario, strong gun laws in neighboring states result in lower levels of gun violence in the given states with weak gun laws because...?

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh dear 😅 you got me here

I agree, having strong gun law in states around leading to weaker gun violence makes not so much sense. I would guess those states have ether a less dense population or have a historical culture (like an unwritten law in some sort) which prevents gun violence for some extent.

[–] 30mag@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would guess those states have ether a less dense population or have a historical culture (like an unwritten law in some sort) which prevents gun violence for some extent.

They happen to have very low poverty rates.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I see 😄 I guess that explains a lot

So the plan should be to make the Poverty gap smaller as well as having some good gun laws.

Hope they’ll do it 🤞🏻