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[–] gammarays@lemm.ee 97 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think most people (including myself) prefer a minimal desktop by default, and then proceed to install only the software they need. Nevertheless, it always surprises me when I log in to a system that doesn't have vim.

[–] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

For almost all users, especially beginners, nano is just simpler faster and better. A lot of distributions are bundling it, and I am finding indeed systems without vim at all.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Although most of the times while vim is not installed vi is. Even often together with nano.

[–] Ozzy@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Man I tried to use vi once because I started with vim and wanted to see what all it was before, and holy shit vim really is IMPROVED

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Especially for beginners, micro would be even better.

I'm surprised there aren't more distros that come packaged with it. If someone's used a graphical text editor in the past decade, then they know how to use micro. The only distro I know of that has it by default is Garuda.

[–] s20@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I disagree. Don't get me wrong, vim is amazing and all that, but I think nano is easier for new users to grok out of the box, making it a better choice most of the time. What it lacks in features it makes up for in transparency.

100% agree about the minimal set of desktop apps, though. That drives me crazy.

Just my 0.02$.

Edit: silly mistakes and clarification

[–] Drito@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In all distro I tried, I always found Vi.

[–] digger@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Vi is standardized in both POSIX and Single Unix Specification.

[–] lukas@lemmy.haigner.me 1 points 1 year ago

You've never used a minimal Linux distro for cloud servers then. Some don't ship any text editors. Others ship only nano. Part of the reason why I think learn vim because vi(m) is everywhere argument is retarded. It's factually incorrect.

[–] the_lone_wolf@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

but they do contains vi