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Keeping cats indoors is a rare solution where everybody wins (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 1 year ago by trk@aussie.zone to c/australia@aussie.zone

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I am not here to make the case that cats should be kept indoors for the sake of local wildlife – that case has been made over and over and over and over again. Cat owners know these arguments, and if they have not been persuaded by the fact that cats kill more than 6 million native animals in Australia a day they will not be persuaded by me.

There is a fairly tedious assumption that if you love wildlife you must hate cats, and visa versa. And nothing will turn cat people off faster than encountering a person who hates cats.

I understand this. I also hate people who hate cats. So let’s set the birds and the bettongs to one side for the moment, and consider the other, obvious fact: cats should be kept indoors for the sake of cats.

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[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Live in NZ. My kitten is, and will always be an indoors cat. When i finally get to a larger house she'll have a lovely catio.

[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

This is the best option. My parents built a catio that ran from a cat door along their actual patio then went tall and up to a covered window so the cats could go in and out through either entryway.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surprised a similar law mandating cats stay inside hasn’t been implemented in NZ. Considering all of the work y’all are doing with the Predator Free 2050 project.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m surprised by this.

Considering that NZ is the country where one individual is responsible for an entire extinction, and modern NZ is one of the most progressive countries in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyall%27s_wren

[–] batmangrundies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry but New Zealanders generally make Aussies look like Woodstock-era hippies.

They are very conservative generally.

I wish people would stop putting NZ on a pedestal. They have ceded often to agricultural interests over environmental concerns resulting in untold damage. The damage they have done to their soil and waterways is apocalyptic.

I always giggle at the idea of Billionaires "escaping" there not realising the soil is completely depleted already and the water table is poisoned by agricultural runoff.

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The question is how?

Taking outdoor cats and making them indoor is pretty cruel.

It seems easiest to first require all cats to be regged/microchipped, and a few years in start a "cats born after X date must be kept indoors and not roaming."

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

Every damn time. "waaaah but outdoor cat" an outdoor cat has a lifespan about a tenth of that of an indoor cat. Outdoor cats are quite happy to be indoor cats if you invest the barest modicum of effort into making an environment that meets their needs rather than just going "baah fluffy murder mittens wants to go and kill natives and if I don't let him he makes noises at me"

[–] trk@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Taking outdoor cats and making them indoor is pretty cruel.

????

Source needed

[–] Landbuffalo@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you ever tried to stop a cat that has had outdoor access for years from going outside?

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

YES. IT'S NOT HARD.

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While it can be done well and with kindness to the cat, its also very easy to do with cruelty.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

That links content does not match the title you've given it.

Keep your cat inside.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where do you live, in Australia or NZ, that doesn’t have a requirement that all Cats (and Dogs for that matter) be registered and microchipped?

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its all lf new zealand. Regional councils may have different rules.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Wow, that’s disappointing. In Victoria, both have been required since I was really little. I remember taking our cat & dog into a free council clinic to get them chipped. There’s also been a dusk to dawn cat curfew for about a decade. I thought NZ would at least be as progressive as my state on the issue.