Not a commie, but didn't the Norwegian people nationalize the oil production, leasing it out to companies while keeping a huge share of the profit for the welfare of common Norwegians?

My understanding is that, in a sense, that is exactly what seizing the means of production is about.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Means: seized.

Snow: plowed.

Lute: fisked.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

Hotel: Trivago.

[–] w2qw@aussie.zone 15 points 1 year ago

Controlling the natural resources a country and leasing it out it private companies is pretty standard practice in most non corrupt countries. Norway probably differs in that they capture more of the economic rent in part due to a more efficient tax and a share of public ownership.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds to me more like a merger of corporation and state.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. The people making these policies laid the plans for nationalizing the natural resources of Norway while in German concentration camps, where they were sent precisely because they were socialists. They are the primary reason, along with the discovery of oil and gas, for Norway being one of the richest countries on earth per capita. That the extraction of natural resources is under democratic control and under a somewhat high taxation scheme is not evidence of a fascist state-corp merger, but something that should be the default in all countries around the world to combat imperialist capital interests (except that the taxes should be even higher).

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds cool. Can you give me a source?

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure! There are multiple claims in my comments, but one can get the gist by reading about the first prime minister of Norway after World War II, Einar Gerhardsen. To back up this new claim I cite the same Wikipedia article linked above:

Many Norwegians often refer to him as "Landsfaderen" (Father of the Nation); he is generally considered one of the main architects of the post-war rebuilding of Norway after World War II.

A better source might be SNL (which stands for the Great Norwegian Encyclopedia and is owned mostly by different Norwegian universities) though this source is in Norwegian only, but should be fine to auto-translate if needed.

The idea of public ownership over natural resources is something that has been a big part of Norwegian identity, and this idea is also manifested in other laws such as the Freedom to roam law, which essentially states that it is

(...) the general public's right to access certain public or privately owned land, lakes, and rivers for recreation and exercise.

Though I would argue much of this identity has been lost in the last 50 years, I am also proud of some of the accomplishments of Norwegian social democracy and think it shows that the idea that "class collaboration is betrayal of socialist values" is wrong. At the same time it is important to admit that there have been problematic parts throughout its development, such as the treatment of the Sámi people and other minorities and the illegal surveillance of suspected communist sympathizers, to name a few.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks a ton!