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[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 154 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

IT in the EU:

Due to some EU laws, there has to be a "cookie consent" dialog on every website that uses cookies. I would estimate that more than 50% (probably too low) of these popups are cosmetic only and it doesn't actually matter if you click accept or reject.

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Wow that suck. I always spend time turning off every legitimate consent button. So I get cookies anyway?

[–] talos@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could set your browser to clear all cookies when you close it. That does mean you have to keep logging into sites every time you open the browser again, but with a password manager that's not really a problem.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You don't need cookies to stay logged in anymore. You actually don't need cookies for anything.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

gdpr is a different thing than the cookie law, refusing consent is a real thing that everyone in the industry spent a hell of a lot of time and effort implementing to the letter because the fines for companies are way too large for anyone to ignore

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's plugins that will do it for you (with the max privacy settings so you don't have to worry about getting tricked by phrasing).

I even have one on my mobile browser.

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there one for iOS browsers? I mostly use firefox on ios

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

No, it's only for regular Firefox, and Firefox on iOS is just reskinned safari (so no plugins).

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ghostery is what I use on my phone (alongside other stuff like uBlock origin)

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah probably.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most of these consent pop ups are designed to be insanely annoying to the point where you just click accept all on a long list of cookies for individual things and they are not even grouped

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

it's illegal, there should be a "continue without accepting" link everytime, and in the selection of choice, all non essential should be disabled, but yeah, there's still some website not playing the game correctly, hopefully UE will give sanction at some point?

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sonnenzeit@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

It's sad that for some of the more obnoxious offenders where you need to individually opt out for each ad partner they carry it still may take the addon 30+ seconds. Imagine how long it would take to click everything manually. And that stuff is illegal by the way: rejecting everything must be just as easy as accepting everything. If I come across such a site I typically just avoid them from that point forward.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

90% of the time^1 there's at least a Cancel or Reject button. Sometimes you even get to pick which categories right there without it being two or three levels deep.


1 based on my highly scientific method of pulling numbers outa mah butt

[–] doktorRobot@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That doesn't sound realistic. There are real fines for non compliance and it's trivial to find out what cookies you have.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You usually first get an injunction with some time to fix the issue, little risk of immediate fines.

So there is little reason to implement a working consent dialog unless you get a legal notice to do so. When the law came out we got a lot of such notices over the lack of the dialog, but after a usless dialog was implemented, it stopped.

Guess lawyers aren't that tech savy or have better things to do.

[–] icedterminal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] simon574@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Wasn't a good read for me. A boring intro and then some speculation about possible new laws in the future, and Google Topics API mayybe making cookies obsolete.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Security theater.

EU, can you just make that shit go away? I am so goddamn tired of clicking cookie dialogs I could puke. kthxbye

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I forgot the link, lol.

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

50% seems conservative lol