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[–] TheMagicalTimonini@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know you're trying to say the opposite, but what I'm thinking of when reading your comment, is that more money should be invested in building better infrastructure to make buses and trains more reliable. Like 90% of the traffic hindering the buses is made up of cars. With less cars, more people could ride buses, trains etc. and people could ride a lot more frequently. People shouldn't have to fumble through their purses, because busrides should be mostly free.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not even talking traffic. Buses are just inherently slower than cars.

A car gets me from point A to point B with little to no interruption. To go the same distance in a bus, I first have to walk 10 minutes to the closest bus stop, ride the bus down a less direct route with a dozen stops along the way, and then when I get to my stop, walk another 10 minutes to get where I need to go. And the entire time, you are at the mercy of a schedule that is often unreliable. I am not kidding when I say taking a bus would triple my commute time. When I am working 50+ hours a week, it's just not feasible.

Everyone in here apparently lives in a fantasy city where public transport takes you exactly where you want to go, is never late, and runs every 5 minutes. And when the whole thread here is full of "Just take a taxi/Uber", how is that a solution to the problem above?

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

then your city just has bad transit planning, or is too rural.

[–] Globulart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And this is what so many people seem fail to realise here. You can't have a flawless public transport system in an area with 1 person per square mile.

Is the suggestion here that nobody should be allowed to live in a remote location in order to remove cars from society? Or do people actually believe that a decent system exists for people with their nearest neighbours a mile away?

Feels like the issue has been simplified to the point of absurdity sometimes. I don't love cars but I couldn't live without mine, even if public transport was improved to perfection in my area.

Is this world that's being proposed one where nobody can go camping? How do we get to places with no towns or cities? Charter a bus of our own or wait until 67 other people want to go with me? How do parents of 3+ young children manage? If you have triplets you're making a very hard job (something simple like going shopping) 5x harder. Is this world one where food delivery is the only option for a big shop? Or are we expected to shop daily so we can carry everything home on a bus?