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[–] dojan@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Eh, it honestly depends on what the climate protestors are doing. If they're chaining themselves to people's cars, painting aeroplanes with toxic paint (so the company has to use toxic chemicals to remove it), or glue themselves to the autobahn, then they're honestly just making a mockery out of climate activism.

Moira who can't get to work because some cunt chained themselves to her wheel isn't going to become an ally when she gets scolded by her shitty boss for being late due to something she can't control. She needs to pay her landlords mortgage and put food on the table for her kids. Her old car might not be the most environmentally friendly but it might be the only option she has.

Picket parliament. Organise big costly strikes. Build gillotines and kidnap the CEOs and investors of big oil. Or you know, do something productive, like show the impact a small pond and some wildflowers can make in a green desert, or maybe work to restore wetlands.

Most people do care, but don't have the time or capacity to do shit about it. If you have the time and energy to fuck over Duncan on his way to his shitty second job so he can pay for his mortgage and his student loans, you have time to fuck over the people that have the power to help you actually make a change.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The street gluers must be paid crisis actors (just like the GOP projects) to make climate activism seem like a bunch of crazy people.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This low-key what I believe honestly.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2022/10/21/getty-oil-heiress-funds-climate-crisis-activism-just-stop-oil

The granddaughter of the oil tycoon J. Paul Getty has donated millions to support activist groups like Extinction Rebellion and Just Stop Oil

I mean she claims to be taking action against climate change, but I don't know, smells fishy

[–] SquareBear@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Gotta get those sweet tax write-offs

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've spent enough time around wannabe revolutionaries to think most of those people are honest and really believe impeding some poor people from going to work will help make the masses adopt their cause.

It does help their belief system that they and most of the people around them were convinced by some asshole doing something similar.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

They're are always some true believers. Flat Earth used to be trolls until the OGs got bored and moved on leaving only the believers behind.

The best astroturf is the one that starts growing on its own.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

As far as the ones in Germany go, largely they don't seem to be. They are really that stupid. Even when they try to target the right people they fuck it up. It is fun to watch however. Some hilarious stories and little to no success have come out of it.

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[–] iByteABit@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Eh, lynching the big suits in the oil industry is fine by me.

Make them scared to leave their homes if they want to sacrifice everything for their own profits.

The way things are going, there will come a day when we regret we didn't become violent against them while there was still time to stop climate change.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, how are they getting their hands on toxic paint? Are are they making it themselves? If it's the later then they have really just undone the entire of their "point".