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As part of his Labor Day message to workers in the United States, Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday re-upped his call for the establishment of a 20% cut to the workweek with no loss in pay—an idea he said is "not radical" given the enormous productivity gains over recent decades that have resulted in massive profits for corporations but scraps for employees and the working class.

"It's time for a 32-hour workweek with no loss in pay," Sanders wrote in a Guardian op-ed as he cited a 480% increase in worker productivity since the 40-hour workweek was first established in 1940.

"It's time," he continued, "that working families were able to take advantage of the increased productivity that new technologies provide so that they can enjoy more leisure time, family time, educational and cultural opportunities—and less stress."

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[–] severien@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm an SWE too, and my anecdote is that I certainly can't do work in 4 days what I'm currently doing in 5 days.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point wasn't that 4 days outputs more work than 5 It was that the average output per day decreases with a longer work week, though one or two people we work with manage to be pretty consistent.

Also I think that 4 days of productivity is enough.

Our most effective co workers have had special work hours and agreements. Some worked 4 days on 3 days off, some work 3 hours less a day. They are the ones who consistently pushed out good stuff, were the least distracted, and had the space to occasionally work extra if they felt like it. The only reason they could do that was because they didn't rely on the 5 day work week to keep themselves afloat.

I wish I could be in that boat but unfortunately my wage means I have to work all 5 days to support myself and family comfortably.

[–] severien@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My point wasn’t that 4 days outputs more work than 5

Good, but many do claim exactly this to support the "32 hours with no loss in pay".

Our most effective co workers have had special work hours and agreements.

I can believe that, but the causation is often the opposite - they are the most effective, thus they have the biggest leverage to negotiate better conditions for themselves. At least that's what I've seen.