like, it's caffeine and water and brown, who cares. i drink diet soda so it's no calories, no sugar. versus the stereotype starbucks order, why is soda so demonized

the whole sort of basically woo stuff about oh there's antioxidants there which give you a 3% lower risk of skin cancer after the age of 65 like come on that doesn't count

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[–] cabbagee@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes and diet soda isn't a perfect alternative. We're still learning about the long term effects of artificial sweeteners. It's a headache trying to navigate the options.

There are seltzer waters that have caffeine. I would guess those are comparable to black coffee in terms of healthiness.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not saying you're totally wrong to be suspicious but aspartame is the most scientifically examined substance in the history of the world, and so far its only damaging if you consume it undiluted in large quantities, which is also true for like vinegar or alcohol etc.

it would be equally true to suggest we don't know the long term effects of exposure to mobile phones, even though they seem perfectly safe.

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure been studied but anything with this much profits on the line is bound to be massively influenced by it, and the fact that its gotten to even possibly a carcinogen is enough of a sign to me.

Andsalso 'most studied' what? Wheres that number even from

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

it's a quote from the FDA's website.

[–] cabbagee@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Absolutely true. Aspartame is generally regarded as safe under 40mg/kg and still researching long term effects doesn't mean it's dangerous, just that there may be more to discover. To be fair, science is constantly evolving and new discoveries are being made every day for... well, everything. Still, if you want to find the "healthiest" way to get your daily caffeine, there are options out there with minimal additives. Black coffee, tea, seltzers, even pills.