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Cmon guys, this is c/memes and not c/politics yet you make it look like we're in a fucking civil war lol

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[–] TheBigMike@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have brought up some good points, but the good points they make are over shadowed by the whole genocide denial and "dunking on libs".

The following example is not meant to represent hexbear users, but to show an example of how I could see it.

Think of a fascist who brings up some good examples of modern problems in about 1/10 of their messages, while the rest are talking about how Mussolini was actually good, since he brought up the living standard in Italy and expanded the public sector. And when someone brings up the bad things Mussolini did, the fascist just says "It's clearly western propaganda".

You wouldn't want to read their messages, since they are full of this fascist apologetic garbage, and the good points they bring up are ignored because of their other opinions.

It doesn't matter how good willed your opinions are if no one wants to associate with you.

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 8 points 1 year ago

Exactly this.

I've told them this before. I agree with them on about 60% of the stuff they believe. But they are really, really hung up on the genocide apologetics. I've tried reasoning with them, but I don't think it's going to happen. I'm pretty sure they banned me haha

[–] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mussolini did not make living standards better though, and his crimes are well documented and aren’t just propaganda. So it’s a false equivalence.

[–] TheBigMike@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was never meant to be an equivalence. I made it to draw a rough picture of how a person can have some good ideas, but be a person no one wants to associate with due their other ideas.

[–] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, but it may be the case that the “other ideas” also aren’t actually wrong and the people who don’t want to associate do so out of not wanting to challenge their own wrong ideas about things.