this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2023
85 points (78.9% liked)
Showerthoughts
29728 readers
602 users here now
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.
Rules
- All posts must be showerthoughts
- The entire showerthought must be in the title
- Avoid politics
- NEW RULE as of 5 Nov 2024, trying it out
- Political posts often end up being circle jerks (not offering unique perspective) or enflaming (too much work for mods).
- Try c/politicaldiscussion, volunteer as a mod here, or start your own community.
- Posts must be original/unique
- Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct-----
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I wonder if someone can give any examples of these painful ways to die
The guy that got stuck upside down in a cave for hours is pretty horrifying.
He died via heart attack tho iirc so...not so bad?
It took days and they broke his legs trying to recover him, pretty bad I'd say
I feel like the real torture was done to his brother and friends.
Ok but that's not how he died. That's what happened before he died. In terms of the whole experience yeah no bueno
Everybody dies because their brain stops sending signals... The experience is part of it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazen_bull
There's zero evidence that was ever used tho...
A lot of the "terrible tortures of the past" are bullshit because the people that came next wanted to look civilized compared to the past.
I think for this one, someone found a bronze bull that could fit a person inside and some pipes. It's way more likely the person in there just played the pipes like horns
Well sure, but if it was real it would be a horrifying way to die. I imagine akin to being burned at the stake in a way.
How about acute radiation sickness?
I'd have to agree with this one, and the most painful example of this that I can think of is Hisashi Ouchi, otherwise known as the most irradiated man in history.
I don't see the Tokaimura nuclear accidents (which led to the aforementioned death of Hisashi Ouchi) as a reason to dismiss nuclear energy. Even if this is bait as @CADmonkey@lemmy.world mentioned, I want to make it clear that wasn't my intention behind bringing up Ouchi's death, and shouldn't be twisted into a case against nuclear energy as a whole.
The Tokaimura accident of 1999 was the result of improper safety, due to the facility failing to install the necessary alarms should criticality occur, and cost-cutting by having workers mix uranium in steel drums instead of proper vats that would control the rate at which it's mixed (which would have prevented criticality). In essence, had the proper safety measures been followed, the incident would not have occurred. The same can be said for most nuclear disasters, especially the famous Chernobyl disaster.
A compiled list of nuclear incidents (which also includes events aside from nuclear reactors) can be found here:
It's evident that nuclear incidents, especially those pertaining to reactors, are incredibly uncommon, and this is the result of strict safety protocols that cannot be shirked, as well as an extreme number of fail-safes in the event of a malfunction. The most recent major nuclear event- The Fukushima Disaster, required an earthquake, tsunami, compounded with human error- extraordinary circumstances that not only are extremely rare, but have been learned from too.
If the reason to ban nuclear energy is due to a small handful of disasters like these, then logic dictates that this should be expanded to a myriad of products. How about pesticides, due to the Bhopal Disaster? How about getting rid of dams, due to the1975 Banqiao Dam Failure, that led to thousands of deaths?
The truth of the matter is that much of the large scale infrastructure that we rely on, especially in industry and energy production, can fail on extremely rare occasions, and lead to tremendous loss of life. But through strict safety measures, training, and human ingenuity, the threat of disaster is minuscule.
TL;DR: Singling out nuclear energy as a problem when the same concerns can be raised for any industry is hypocritical, and just the result of fear-mongering. It is safe.
Low-quality bait is Low-quality.
My bet would be cartel torture with adrenaline to keep the victim awake.
That’s cruel
I would imagine some of the worst are rare conditions that take you from the inside out. I can’t find reference to the name of the disease, but I swear I remember seeing a bone condition that caused spiky growths, almost like crystals, to form from your bones.
It would be slow and excruciating and you would beg for death long before it ever came.
I think thats bone cancer. Its awful... I hope they find a cure or just instantly encourage euthanasia. No one should go trough that ever..
That's what bone cancer is...
Sometimes it's just a lump in one spot. Sometimes it's a whole bunch of tiny growths that push into nerves and flesh.
Proteus Disease is what the Elephant Man had, but that's really just a super specific version of bone cancer.
Oh my god. First time I heard of this. Gruesome. And it’s sad that most of the ones killed are because of honor.