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[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it's like, typing this out really drew my attention to how much conversations about China are dominated by random noise that's largely insignificant or bullshit. It's always this 24 hour news coverage level of analysis, with no actual study of history or major trends and themes. Hell I realized myself the other day that there were two leaders between Deng and Xi who I couldn't name and know basically nothing about.

I think that most people fall into certain ideological traps that allow them to simplify narratives to the point of never really feeling the need to study anything, in part because the world is just so big that it's hard to actually be informed about things. You never have to decide how you feel about specific events in China's history if you just scream "CHINA BAD" every time it comes up, and that's a whole lot of history you never have to bother learning now.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Hell I realized myself the other day that there were two leaders between Deng and Xi who I couldn't name and know basically nothing about.

Oh well that's easy, before Xi Jinping there was Hu Jintao, who was a kind of moderate technocratic kind of guy. Always about plans and numbers. And before Jintao there was a magic toad wizard who wore George Romero glasses and would yell at journalists when they asked him stupid shit FrogPog

[–] UnicodeHamSic@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are lying to me about this I do not want to know the truth

[–] axont@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

i'm only mildly exaggerating

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think we even have emotes for those guys, and we have a million emotes!

My impression was both of then were fairly boring technocrats but I'm interested to learn more about this magic toad wizard.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the only thing I know about Jiang Zemin and I think I might be okay with that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kGPJzusNPA

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Omg that's like straight out of a movie. I've seen that "too young, too simple, sometimes naive" quote before but I had no idea that's where it's from. I love it.