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My Perfect Social Media Platform

  • Multimedia support: The platform would support various media types, including text, pictures, GIFs, videos, audio files, and more. It would have a view similar to Lemmy and a grid-view for visual content, like an image board.

  • Tagging System[^15][^8]: The platform would implement a tagging system so users can categorize posts with relevant keywords. This helps others find content on specific topics and organizes content for better discoverability.

  • Custom feeds[^16]: Allow users to create custom feeds that combine posts from multiple users, instances, include/exclude keywords, hashtags. This is similar to Reddit's multireddit, Kbin magazines and Firefish antennas. Firefish antennas allow users to specify keywords to include/exclude in categorized feeds.

  • Upvoting and downvoting system: Users can upvote and downvote posts and comments to rank content. This usually surfaces entertaining content.

  • Multi-criteria rating[^3]: Star ratings for various criteria to rank content based on a comprehensive evaluation. Multi-criteria ratings allow ranking content based on other factors, like quality instead of entertainment value. Could be a dropdown menu on every post/comment.

  • User reputation or karma[^2]: A user reputation or karma system based on contributions and interactions. This could be used to incentivize curation over posting, and quality content over entertaining content.

  • Achievements: Implement a gamified achievement system based on usage.

  • Reactions: In addition to upvotes/downvotes, allow a wider range of reactions to posts and comments. For example, Facebook reactions like Like, Love, Haha, Sad, Angry.

  • Threaded comments: Posts would have a threaded tree-like comment system for easy discussion.

  • Private messaging: Users would be able to send private messages to each other.

  • Notifications: Users could receive real-time notifications for new posts, comments, messages, etc. This increases user engagement.

  • Custom themes: Multiple color themes, including a default low-contrast dark mode.

  • Localization: Support multiple languages to expand reach.

  • User profiles: Detailed user profiles allow users to showcase their contributions, interests, and customize their presence on the platform. Users would have granular control over their profile privacy, being able to share with nobody, only followed users, or make fully public. Profile sections like bio, posts, collections, reputation, and other details could be toggled private or public individually.

  • Blocking: Users can block other users, tags and communities they don’t want to see.

  • Content filtering[^17]: Users can hide/blur/unblur-on-mouse-over content based on tags, regex or content type, such as text, images, videos, or links, allowing them to focus on the content they prefer.

  • Federated: The platform would be federated using the ActivityPub protocol, allowing for interoperability with other platforms in the Fediverse.

  • Advanced search and tag filtering[^4]: The platform would offer advanced search and tag filtering options to improve content discovery. The advanced search functionality would allow users to craft complex searches to find relevant content. Some key features:

    • Boolean operators: Support AND, OR, NOT operators to combine multiple search terms and keywords. For example, "cat AND dog" or "linux NOT windows".
    • Exact match: Use quotation marks around phrases to search for exact matches. For example, "open source software" would only return results containing that exact phrase.
    • Field search: Allow searching within specific fields like title, tags, author, content, etc. Useful for narrowing results.
    • Tag filtering: Allow including or excluding specific tags. For example, search for "programming" but exclude posts tagged #beginner.
    • Date range filtering: Filter results within a timeframe, like posts from the last week, month, year etc.
    • Sorting: Results can be sorted by relevance, upvotes, comments, date, etc.
    • Search within communities: Scope the search to one or more specific communities.
    • Search within collections: Scope search to user-created collections of posts.
    • Fuzzy search: Return results that match misspellings and partial text.
    • Synonym search: Search using synonyms automatically expands the query.
    • Stemming: Match word stems so "run", "running", "ran" match.
    • Stop words: Ignore common words like "the", "and", "or" that don't help narrow search.
    • Search suggestions: Provide search term suggestions and autocomplete as the user types.
    • Saved searches: Allow saving complex searches for repeated use.
    • Search syntax highlighting: Visual cues to ensure valid syntax.
    • Search tutorials: Embedded tutorials explain how to effectively use advanced search. The goal is to provide users with maximum flexibility and control over search to efficiently find relevant content. Advanced options cater to both novice and power users.
  • Collections[^14]

    • Users should be able to create collections of posts with private/public visibility, which can be edited either by the creator only or by anybody. There are a total of four types of collections.
    • A default private collection for saved posts should be available, ensuring that saved posts work just as they do now.
    • This feature would provide better organization over a single saved list.
    • For even more organization allow to add tags to the collections.
    • Allow posts to have an order in the collection. For a story for example, chapter 1, 2, etc.
    • Allow sorting posts within a collection by date, upvotes, comments, etc.
    • Let users follow collections created by others to see new posts added to it.
    • Integration with search - allow searching within specific collections.
    • Browse/search public collections by tags.
    • Recommend collections to users based on their interests and activity.
  • Downloading: Users can easily download media, collections, or tags.

  • User trust levels and community moderation[^6]

    • The platform would implement user trust levels on a per community and per instance basis, to avoid admin/mod burnout and reliance on bots for moderation. Instance admins could choose to have moderators, only user trust levels, or both.

    • Instance admins can configure the number of trust levels, the number of users desired for each level or the reputation thresholds for reaching each trust level, the reputation scored for each activity, and the privileges granted at each level.

    • The number of users desired for each level or the reputation thresholds would be automatically calculated based on the other configurable parameters.

    • In communities with human moderators, instance admins can restrict their privileges to a subset of actions rather than full control.

    • Moderators could be chosen manually by admins or automatically based on recent activity and voting affinity with admins.

    • There could be an appeals process where users can contest moderator actions. A user with a higher trust level would review the appeal and penalize the incorrect party by reducing reputation, either the user for an invalid appeal or the moderator for improper moderation. There could be loss of privileges too, forever or until gaining a given reputation.

    • This flexibility allows instances to define granular trust and moderation models tailored to their needs.

    • 5 user trust levels by default like Discourse[^13]. Also by default anybody whos used the platform for a few days should have the privilege of editing/hiding answers to their content (posts/comments). Who better to moderate your content than yourself, and thanks to user trust levels and moderation appeal, there's no need to bother the admin if someone takes liberties with this privilege.

  • User curation[^1]: Users above a reputation threshold could tag posts for better organization, like on image boards. This improves curation compared to Lemmy which relies on titles.

  • Customizable feed algorithms[^5][^9]

    • Users can browse and install various third-party algorithms and filters to customize their feeds, similar to browser extensions.

    • An in-platform algorithm marketplace allows users to discover algorithms by popularity, creator, purpose, compatibility, etc.

    • Users can view algorithm source code, ratings, reviews, and example output to evaluate options.

    • Empowers users to shape their own experiences rather than relying on centralized feed choices.

  • Machine learning algorithms: The platform would use machine learning algorithms to personalize feeds and suggest posts based on user recent activity.

  • User affinity: A user affinity system connects users with similar interests based on recent activity.

  • Affinity recommendations: Recommendations based on high affinity users’ activity.

  • One-size-fits-all image format: The platform would adopt a simple, one-size-fits-all image format for easy sharing without formatting issues.

  • Affinity search: Search results biased by user’s affinity network improves relevance.

  • Anonymous posting: Instances/communities could allow anonymous or pseudonymous posting. Users could choose to be anonymous or pseudonymous on the communities that allow it. The options could be show user name, pseudonym for instance, pseudonym for community, pseudonym for post, temporary ID for post, hide identity completely. Anonymity modes should prevent linking post history between communities. Theres a more detailed explanation here.

  • Ephemeral content[^7]: Users, communities and instances could enable automatic pruning of old posts after a set amount of time.

  • Polls and surveys: Allow users to create polls and surveys to gauge opinions and feedback.

  • Block quote: Allow users to selectively quote parts of posts/comments when replying, which link to the original source, like in Discourse. Expand this feature to describe other interesting things that Discourse implements over CommonMark markdown.

  • Custom vote federation[^10]

    • Allow users or instances to limit which votes are counted from other instances.
    • Completely opt out of vote federation.
    • Limit vote federation to chosen or high affinity instances.
    • Implement a manual or automatic weighting system to value some instances higher than others, like chosen or high affinity instances.
    • This preserves thematic uniqueness across the fediverse, as vote federation tends to homogenize instances.
    • This would enable each instance to preserve its thematic focus and uniqueness, providing a more tailored experience for users and instances.
  • Registration throttling based on monthly active users

    • Allow admins to set a cap on the maximum number of monthly active users.
    • Once the cap is reached, new user registrations are throttled or disabled until activity declines and space frees up.
    • This prevents communities from growing too quickly before adequate moderation is in place.
  • Q&A features

    • Best answer pinning: Allow OP or privileged users to pin the best answer to a questions.
    • Solved filtering: Allow filtering posts by solved/unsolved status.
    • Bounties: Allow users to offer reputation bounties for the best answers to their questions.
  • Post bumping[^11]: Instances/communities can enable post bumping. It allow users to bump old posts back to the top of feeds. This helps keep evergreen content circulating. Instances could limit the number of times or how often posts can be bumped.

  • Related posts[^12]: When creating or accessing a post, users are shown other similar posts that may be of interest. This helps connect related content. Relatedness could be either manually determined by the users or automatically determined by tags, title similarity, user affinities, etc.

Other ideas

  • Self-governing communities: Users can create communities with granular controls over who can view and post content. Communities can be completely open, closed and invite-only, or anything in between.

  • Anonymous and pseudonymous posting: Users have the option to post anonymously or under a pseudonym on a community-by-community basis. Their post history can also be private. This allows free expression without fear of repercussions.

  • Automatic post pruning: Posts can be automatically deleted after a set time period, per community preferences.

  • Flexible community structures: Communities can be structured like Reddit, 4chan, or private group chats.

  • Decentralized backend: Store content on decentralized networks like IPFS rather than centralized servers. This ensures persistence even if the originating instance of a community goes down.

  • Community forking: Communities can be forked by users with permission. The fork with the most users keeps the name. This decentralizes moderator power.

  • Customizable feeds: Users can install community-created filters, blocklists, algorithms to customize their feeds. Empowers user control.

  • Repost detection: Duplicate posts are consolidated. You won't see the same content twice.

  • Trending detection: Trending content is detected via keywords and topics rather than hashtags.

  • Reverse image search: Built-in reverse image search to find related/duplicate visual content.

  • AI content summarization: AI summarizes text, images, video and audio for searchability and accessibility.

  • Aggressive recommendation feed: A separate feed with aggressive personalization, like YouTube Shorts.

  • Recommendation algorithm save points: Users can revert their recommendation algorithm to an earlier state if it gets off track.

  • Conversational AI: Asks questions about content to an AI assistant.

  • Multicommunity feeds: Custom feeds combining multiple communities, with associated search.

  • Ban users based on affinity and activity

    • Allow mods/admins to sort users by affinity and activity levels.
    • Users falling below configurable affinity and activity thresholds can be bulk banned or suspended with one click.
    • This allows removing inactive and bad faith users who don't engage meaningfully.
    • Affinity is calculated based on voting patterns and agreement with mods/admins.
    • Activity is measured by number of posts, comments, votes, etc over a timeframe.
    • Banning by affinity/activity leaves engaged members intact.
    • Increases community coherence by aligning users around shared interests

Related

MusicBrainz, The Internet Archive, Stash-Box, Image Boards, Hydrus, MediaRepo, Stash, JellyFin, NextCloud, Beets, MusicBrainz Picard, TagSpaces, TagScanner, SpaceDrive, tocc, TMSU, SuperTag, wutag, Tabbles, allTags, Dolphin, ArchiveBox, Lemmy, Reddit, 4chan, Discourse

References

[^1]: GitHub — Booru-Style Image View, Search and Tagging by Users [^2]: GitHub — Grant users privileges based on user activity and voting affinity with the admin [^3]: GitHub — Expandable Menu with Star Ratings for Content Evaluation [^4]: GitHub — Advanced Search and Tag Filtering [^6]: GitHub — Grant users privileges based on user activity and voting affinity with the admin [^7]: GitHub — Ephemeral Content: Automatic Removal of Old Content [^8]: GitHub — Booru-Style Image View, Search and Tagging by Users [^9]: GitHub — Algorithm Marketplace [^10]: GitHub — Enable Users to Customize Vote Federation [^5]: TheVerge — Bluesky rolls out feeds with custom algorithms [^11]: GitHub — Instance configuration for bumping posts [^12]: GitHub — Linking related posts [^13]: Discourse Blog — Understanding Discourse Trust Levels [^14]: GitHub — Create Collections of Posts [^15]: GitHub — Request for Comments: Flexible Tag System [^16]: GitHub — Custom Feeds [^17]: GitHub — Filter for Hiding Unwanted Content

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Well both have threads in different communities (reddit subs vs. boards like /b/).

4chan allows posting without an account, that is why it is popular for leakers, whistleblowers etc..

4chan "post comments" are chronologic, reddit post comments are nesting and have various sort orders. I think Reddit is objectively better here in my opinon, so I would just ignore this difference and do it like Reddit/lemmy. But if you really want you can give communities power over this.

4chan threads are automatically deleted after a short while, so they basically have pruning. This is a bit complex to explain, but I don't think the exact mechanism is that important, as long as threads are deleted after a while. That is one important feature of 4chan vs Reddit where everything is saved.

The most important point is that everyone on 4chan is anonymous by default. I don't use 4chan, but if I rememeber correctly depending on the board: 1) you get a unique ID for the thread so others can identify you in the thread 2) on some boards you don't get an ID, it's just that every post has an ID, but you can't tell what two posts are by the same person 3) You can also give yourself a name on some boards I think. Another level of "anonymity granulatity" that 4chan doesn't have I think, could be you automatically get a unique ID cookie that expires after you don't post for a while.

Naturally there also is not post/comment history like there is on reddit.

So what I like about 4chan is 1) posting without an account 2) posting anonymously 3) posting anonymously with a unique thread ID 4) posting pseudonymously without an account 5) thread/comment pruning aka auto delete after some time.

But you could imagine all these various levels of anonymity on a spectrum from 4chan to Reddit. Phrased differently, from posting completely anonymously without an account and everything is deleted after some time like 4chan TO posting pseudonymously and posts stay forever and other users can see your post history like Reddit.

To explain further what I mean by the spectrum between 4chan and Reddit:

  • In my optimal social network a community would be able to perfectly mimic 4chan.

  • Or a community could require you to have an account but otherwise mimic 4chan perfectly.

  • Or a community could force everyone to post under a community pseudonym, so if you have a history on other instances/communities others can't see it, only your history on this community.

  • Or a community could allow you to choose if you want others to see your cross instance history or if you want to be community pseudonymous or if you want to be completely anonymous.

  • Or a community could require you to be completely transparent about your cross-instance history like Lemmy.

  • And any of those communities could auto delete posts/comments after a while, regardless of anonymity etc..

But all of this with federation like Lemmy. So I can go to the community on a different instance (let's say test.ml) that perfectly mimics a 4chan board (and requires an account) with my feddit.nl account and all my posts there will be anonymous. My post/comment history on this 4chan-like community won't be visible in my account history and others on this 4chan-like community can't tell it's me.

Lemmy kind of allows you to be pseudonymous on every instance by just making a differnt account for each instance. But that is tedious, I would want to be able to be pseudonymous on an instance/community level with my existing account without having to make a new account. Bonus of this being that admins/mods could ban pseudonymous accounts from certain instances, but not from others.

Basically have various different anonymity/pseudonymity/pruning features that communities and users can mix and match depending on their needs.

Why? Maybe you have cancer and you don't want everyone else to know you are posting on a cancer community, but you still want others in that community to see your post history.

And in general it's just good OPSEC/privacy practice to have that kind of separation. It would be amazing to hinder Big Tech/Big Ad companies from mining and selling your data.

I know some people don't care at all about that, but I value my privacy and my optimal social network would protect is as much as I want.

And anyone who doesn't like those kinds of anonymity features, because of brigading or hate speech or whatever can just exclusively visit communities where those kinds of features are turned off.

I personally wouldn't want to frequent 4chan-like communities either, as they are basically the sewage pipe of the internet. I would want something between Reddit and 4chan. But I don't see why not to let others have their fun in the sewers, so I would let communities and instances decide.

And also would like to have a personal closed off community with my friends, like a Discord server or a group-chat, that I can access with my normal social media account without without worrying about data leaks. So there these features also come in handy.

So yeah I think the optimal social network would let communities decide on these features in a very fine grained manner. And of course combine that with fine grained permissions, who can do/see what and why.

Sorry for this post being so long and convoluted, but I hope you understand what I mean now. It's just an unavoidably complex idea that I struggle to explain fully and succinctly. But every ounce of that complexity is nescessary if you ask me.