EDIT: Which is actually more than Taiwan has done, the government in exile on Taiwan considers itself the rightful government of the entirety of mainland China and parts of Mongolia.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Way to just completely ignore my point and move the goal posts?

Are the 13 colonies a separate country because they declared independence from the United Kingdom?

Don’t bother replying. I don’t want waste my time talking to people who can’t answer a simple question

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not moving the goalposts, I'm just pointing out that it's a bit disingenuous to frame a question about what should happen in an unresolved civil war as a question of nations and their sovereignty. It would be disingenuous to frame Russia's intervention in Ukraine as defending the independence of an entire country, I think it's a similar situation between ROC/PRC, the primary difference being the length of the dispute.

Which is relevant if we're talking about how one can consistently be anti-imperialist, I think. I agree it's a bit flippant to say stuff about 'giving up Loser Island' but I think it's important to recognize that it's more complicated than 'two independent countries fighting over the territory of one of them.'

[–] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Don’t bother replying. I don’t want waste my time talking to people who can’t answer a simple question

[–] TheDankHold@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Donbas isn’t comparable. The government in Taiwan has had a continuous existence since before the CCP.

If the rebellious territories of the Donbas was actually a preexisting government that had all the rest of its territory taken in a civil war you might be onto something. In reality Ukraine gained sovereignty from imperial USSR and now imperial Russia wants to take it over again.