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Seriously though, the USA is virtually always bad.

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[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Okay cool. So Democrats arguing for limited or unlimited socialism aren't liberal by the international general definition?

[–] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Democrats arguing for limited or unlimited socialism

citations-needed citation needed

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

There's no democrats arguing for socialism you dumbass. At best you'll find some milquetoast succdem

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

limited or unlimited socialism

Welfare is not socialism. Social safety nets are not socialism. You've been duped by a misuse of the word.

These are policies that socialists like because they improve people's lives. They are not socialism itself.

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Literally how in the fucking world could you arrive at this conclusion

Not one bit of this question makes sense.

  1. Democrats have never advocated for socialism. I don't even think Bernie Sanders has actually advocated for socialism.

  2. Liberal in America doesn't mean socialist or even socialist adjacent. If you zoom out to include a "international general definition", even less so. Liberalism is in direct opposition to Socialism. Both ideologies organize society in mutually exclusive ways. This is like telling somebody you believe in Cat-Mouseism. It makes no fucking sense

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

There are no democrats arguing for socialism. Socialism means a society having collective ownership of the means of production. The dems are a bunch of libs like you

[–] somename@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Socialism isn't having shit like social security.

For context, social democrats are NOT socialist just because social is in the name. Egon’s comment shouldn’t need that disclaimer, but I doubt you knew this.