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Seriously though, the USA is virtually always bad.

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

american capitalists had a hand in funding hitler and mussolini's rise to power

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So that makes them entirely the US's fault? Capitalists and communists in many countries helped cause their rise to power.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

communists

communists, well known for putting fascists into power

oh woe is me I seemed to have dropped this victory

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everything causes everything. Scare against communism allowed fascism to gain a foothold faster.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and because capitalists hate communism so much they immediately turned to fascism, that somehow makes communism the enemy?

"It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to save democracy from communism." -Michael Parenti.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Everything effects everything. You can draw a line of causation from anything from reactions or trickle down effects.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

bro then capitalism is more evil than communism, since it direct ties to fascism. You are proving me right with sheer idiocy.

how does this attribute any crimes to communism?

My brain is trying to process how monumentally stupid you are being.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i'll need it, you seem to just be on drugs at this point

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should try then, might make you less of a shithead

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

This is now officially a tantrum

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Did you get locked up or something? You're just repeating yourself now

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No shit. Guess who pioneered this view of history? Fucking Marx

[–] somename@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

It makes you wonder what kind of people turn to fascism because they're scared of communism. I wonder. I wonder....

thinkin-lenin

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Who created these scares?

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Capitalists and communists in many countries helped cause their rise to power.

You're just saying that because "both sides" feels true to you. It's not, though. Communists in Germany were the bitterest opponents of the Nazis, before the latter even had a strong party formation. And as the first line of the poem goes, Communists were the first ones "they" came for (although this is usually omitted in liberal retellings".

If you've ever heard of Antonio Gramsci you know that imprisoning or killing communists was the first order of business under Mussolini.

You can name any country that went fascist, and we can point out where the capitalists were easing it along and the communists were fighting it tooth and nail.

[–] Facky@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

So that makes them entirely the US's fault?

Entirely? No. But they do bear a lot of the burden.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Probably the Italians and Germans were a bit involved too, obviously ww2 is not entirely the fault of America but they were some giant fucking dominoes that fell.