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[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"You can only help people if everyone gets the exact same amount of help", is the dumbest argument on the planet. And I'd challenge you're premise that blue collar works are paying for white collar workers to go to school. With progressive taxation, really it is upper middle class and wealthy people that are paying for that school regardless of education background. Very little of that money is coming from the blue collar workers that aren't brining in a lot of money. If $2 of Joe the cashiers taxes go to paying for education but $20,000 of random rich guys taxes go to bettering education, I really don't think that is such an unfair system like you make it seem. The lack of a debt burden on a large subset of society ends up benefitting everyone, including the janitor or cashier.

[–] bob_wiley@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Without doing anything to fix the system that created the debt burden, they're simply kicking the can down the road. It'll start building right back up again. This isn't a sustainable solution to the problem. It's like we're attaching a few balloons to the top of the trolley so it's a little lighter when it runs over a few people, but then the balloons pop and we keep throwing on weight. Fixing the issues that have led to the current price of college will likely save future students more than they would ever get from a debt forgiveness program. This isn't a real solution, it's a ploy to win votes and apparently it's working.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree it should be fixed, but our present legislative branch is incapable of taking on that kind of progress, they can barely wipe their own ass. If that's the best they can do I think it is still better than doing nothing at all. "ploy to win votes" is another way of saying doing what people want, or what they are literally paid to do. It's funny to try and propagandize that into a negative thing.

[–] bob_wiley@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If that's the best they can do they should be removed from office. People who are unwilling or unable to work with others should not hold public office where that is a basic skill required for the job.

As for the ploy to win votes, the issues is both the timing and the way it which it was done. Biden announced the first forgiveness stuff going into the midterm elections and they were just promises from an executive order. It likely gave them a boost in votes during the midterms even though nothing happened yet, and ultimately nothing happened, because he didn't have the authority to do that according to the courts. But the election already happened, so he just gets to say, "my bad, we'll try again next time"... Now they'll dangle this BS carrot in front of people through 2024 to try and prop them up in the 2024 elections. Will anything meaningful actually happen? I'm not holding my breath.