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To build a fully climate-neutral transport system in the Netherlands, many citizens will have to give up their cars, Jan Willem Eirsman, the government’s new chief climate adviser as chairman of the Scientific Climate Council, told the AD.

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[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Germany has monthly local public transport passes for 49€ for all local public transport including regional trains. So if you wanted to go that kind of distance, you propbaly buy that instead and use public transport for some trips in the city or for some other trip. For groups some states have state passes, which can be very cheap as well. Lower Saxony for example has the Niedersachsenticket, which is 25€ for the first person, another 6€ for the next and then 5€ for each of the next three people. That works for a day after 9am for all regional public transport in the state. So you could get everybody within a normal sized car on a similar distance for 46€.

In other words, I am sorry, but public transport in the Netherlands is more expensive then in Germany. At least it is on time thou.

[–] LaLiLuLuCo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That pass doesn't cover trains you actually want to take between regions. It's basically a subway pass equivalent.

Source: I still pay €25 to go to the nearest city because it's a 1+ hour train ride and going local station to local station sucks. Yes I have been busted by the Deutche Bahn employee checking Tickets and thought the country wide pass worked.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ulm- München is abou 120km and it takes to 2:00 by regional train. Berlin - Magdeburg is also similar and at about 1:45. Both can be used using that pass.

[–] LaLiLuLuCo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Aalen to Stuttgart can't. Stuttgart to München Can't.

"using that pass" means not taking the direct train line. And stopping locally.

Don't ask me, ask a DB employee telling me that pass isn't valid for those connections.

Edit: here's the carve out

Please note, however, that the Deutschland-Ticket is not valid on trains operated by DB Fernverkehr AG or other long-distance providers such as FlixTrain (e.g. IC, EC, ICE, as well as RE operated by DB Fernverkehr AG). DB Fernverkehr is currently in talks with the German state governments and authorities about exceptions on certain sections of line.

The Deutschland-Ticket is currently also permitted for long-distance trains (IC, EC, ICE) between Rostock Hbf and Stralsund Hbf.