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They get unnecessarily VIOLENTLY angry if you address how other political issues are also important.

They are rabid, and do not have 'chill' mode. It's impossible talking to them at all. They also force their beliefs about using public transportation on everyone when they don't take into account that not everyone lives in a city.

Also, they fail to acknowledge that public transportation is not safe.

Listen, I get that climate change is a thing. But it's not THEE ultimate and almighty issue.

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Climate change threatens to kill everyone on the planet. It is the ultimate issue right now. This is just humans going into survival mode and focusing on the big death.

It's akin to trying to talk to somebody about a food shortage while they're actively on fire. Yes food's important, but it's less urgent

Everyone who's down voting, this is clearly a bona fide unpopular opinion, don't downvote. It's exactly why this community exists

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Climate change threatens to kill everyone on the planet. It is the ultimate issue right now. This is just humans going into survival mode and focusing on the big death.

This is what I fear the most. Climate change will only become salient over time where obsession with it will manifests as extreme violence to secure resources. But it's not like these murderous people are going to care about climate change per se; rather, they'll think they need to secure what they need to continue their survival. But those resources, particularly water, will become less and less available because of climate change.

Better that climate "activists" block traffic, slash tires, and have no chill mode now than deeply flawed humans murdering, raping, and pillaging later for the same reason.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The start of water wars is just around the corner. It's going to happen. Just look at the Nile and the dam situation right now.

The only way to save the environment is to get every country to enforce environmental regulations, even at their own economic disadvantage. And that's not something people volunteer to do. So it need some powerful global entity that could enforce environmental rules..... And that's a hard sell as well.

On the bright side world war II actually resulted in a global cooling for 5 years. So maybe world war III will be as beneficial, if we survive it.

[-] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think climate change threatens to kill everyone in the medium term at least right? It threatens to make large portions of the world uninhabitable and spark wars, civil unrest, etc as people fight over dwindling resources.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s the problem: it may not be impending but it is urgent. The effects of climate change will get gradually worse over decades, but that doesn’t mean we have decades to fix it. Nor that we can wait until it gets bad before fixing it. How do you instill urgency for a crisis that needs action now, even if the worst effects are still decades in the future?

Excess carbon dioxide remains in the atmosphere for decades to centuries. This year’s pollution might not seem to bad in this year but will make things worse for many years to come.

We still don’t fully understand tipping points but they do exist. What happens when we pass one that “suddenly” makes things even worse, but is irreversible? We may already have started one or more in process and don’t even know it yet.

[-] Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

What the fuck do you think is going to happen once the food riots start, supply chains break down, and people can't afford to feed their kids?

Social collapse on a worldwide scale.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com -1 points 1 year ago

Your right, we don't know how much time we have left, but we know the earth is becoming unsustainable. 4 generations? 10? we can't say.

The fighting over dwindling safe places to live will probably be the actual thing that wipes us out, but the root cause will be the climate change.

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