That's what happened to Sleeping Dogs? Lame. I loved that game!

I agree with Saints Row. I didn't think new younger audiences would take to a restart of the formula, or that old fans would want to start from scratch so to speak. Meanwhile ramping up from 4 would sate the old fans by somehow getting even more bonkers, and younger gamers would have this insane shit show of a sandbox even if they aren't familiar with the brand (and would probably boost sales of the old ones too.)