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Evidence that dozens of women were groomed into online sex work by members of influencer Andrew Tate's "War Room" group has been uncovered by the BBC.

Leaked internal chat logs identify 45 potential victims between March 2019 and April 2020 but the total number is likely to be higher.

The texts also appear to show the techniques used by War Room members to exploit possible victims.

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[–] Clav64@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I have a friend who keeps defending him, often deflecting to attack the people writing the article (i.e. BBC) and then ranting about Epstein Island and the Clinton's etc....

Yet here we have a man who has videos of himself talking about trafficking, coercion and abuse of women - and more evidence of them openly discussing it like a grooming gang, yet my friend continues to say words to the effect of "it's the elites trying to take him down for telling the truth"

Honestly, I just do not get it, and would appreciate anyones advice who has maybe faced similar issues how to get through to them.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. Your best bet, if you wanted to try, is to probably use emotion. Maybe talk about how emasculating it must be to follow this guy who needs to groom women or something. Idk.

[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You can’t reason a person out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

Nicely put.

[–] trash@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you need to replace this friend.

[–] Clav64@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I'm appealing to help on the internet, I'm pretty much exhausted and this is my last gasp to find a way to help him tbh.

[–] Infinity187@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck that "friend".

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Surely the elitists would be hiding evidence of his crimes and then using his services.

Fucking conspiracy theories can't keep a straight story.