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[–] SomeKindaName@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But we'd have money to pay for those raw materials.

[–] luckyhunter@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The article is about affordable housing, not subsidized housing. If it costs 300K to build a house these days the builder is going to try to sell it for more than that.

[–] theyouttogetme@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ok then raise waiges so that 300k house is affordable.

It's all about money.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then government should be the builder.

Not everything needs to whored out to the private sector.

[–] luckyhunter@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because government run projects are well known for being cost effective and cheaper than private sector?

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Actually, yes. They can be.

Much of the overrun that you hear of in, eg, the US and Canada is because of cost-plus contracts negotiated with the private sector. It's been a very, very long since we've seen purely public offerings.

I'd also challenge someone who says "the private sector is more effective". I get the impression they've never worked at private company larger than a neighbourhood coffee shop. I've worked a F50 companies; trust me, they can piss money away and blow through deadlines like it's nobody's business. Try to do an ERP conversion some day.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Also to tack on, you only hear about the projects that blow their budget, because they are the problem projects. You don't hear about the ≈75% of projects that come in "on time*" and under budget, because that's the baseline of what is expected.

*For varying definitions of "on time."

[–] luckyhunter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don't know what a ERP conversion is but it sounds yucky. I double my fee when contracting designs for the government, and engineers who can't cut it end up taking government jobs. Unless the entire culture of government workers change, in my opinion, you have described a fever dream.