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Not what antinatalism is. None of the people im that thread are antinatalists.
Edit: to further "go off", Reddit is a site of manchildren who make more money than they should and have more time to not work than most, and is dominated by a combination of free market ethos pseudo-free speech maximalism with extremely overbearing, petty rules that exist to control the users in ways the admins and mods don't like. It's the exact kind of culture that craves disciplining children into little controlled pseudo-autonomous automatons. Antinatalism isn't really factoring into this.
I'm not entirely as sure. When I was on when video of some kid getting brutalized by a cop happened it wasn't long until "crotch goblin" or "those parents shouldn't have bred" comments came up.
Did it really change that much since then?
Antinatalism is a philosophy that functions when you don't have a subject (that being children).
Once you're talking about someone who is already born, then antinatalism doesn't apply. There's a difference between negative eugenics (preventing births) and antinatalism which seeks to contexualize life and bringing someone into life.
But yeah, antinatalism is a smokescreen term for what is basically mob eugenics. That's why we should be careful to discuss antinatalism because its seen as an invitation to eugenics by those already predisposed to violent eugenics thinking.
So it's more a pedantic technical argument instead of what I was saying which was that antinatalist communities also openly express hatred of (now living) children, even in their terminology. I used to post dunkable material from /r/AntiNatalism all the time way back in the day on places like ShitRedditSays.
Agreed here at least.
Antinatalism exists outside of as a philosophical position that generally quite strongly opposes murder. If you want to talk about the misanthropy of a community -- and here I'll just assume your characterization of r/antinatalism is accurate because fuck that website -- just refer to the community itself and not a broader and much older term.
That's where my rant was focused, from the start, so yes your assumption is correct. That's what I was talking about the entire time in this comment chain.
I wrote it this way, verbatim:
That often isn't anti-natalist, but malthusian, classist, racist and ableist though. Sometimes it intersects and can be more than one thing.
Is objectively true though.
I was ranting about Reddit's specific antinatalist community, with the sub named for the concept and all. If you think they're doing the ideology wrong, take it up with them.