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[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fascists aren’t socialists. Jesus Christ. Rohm wanted social safety nets, he didn’t want the workers to control the means of production, he wanted a corporate state - because he was a fascist, not a socialist.

You’re confusing the left wing of a fascist party with the left wing.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On what planet does "socialism" refer exclusively to worker-owned means of production? That's communism. Nobody uses socialism that way unless they're manipulating wording to fit an agenda.

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this planet

Socialism is a political philosophy and movement encompassing a wide range of economic and social systems which are characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

it's always amazing when people like you are SO CONFIDENTLY INCORRECT about basic information that can easily be determined with a simple search.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have to break it to you, but that just as well describes state-owned companies. It has nothing at all to do with worker ownership. Your own definition makes Roehm a socialist lmao

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

moron. learn what private property means. fascism is not state ownership of corporations, it's corporate ownership of the state, a very different dialectic.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Name-calling now? Keep eating those muffins buddy. It's OK to admit you're wrong once in a while.

Edit: directly from the horse's mouth!

Erich Koch, who would eventually become the Gauleiter of East Prussia, maintained in an a 1931 article "Sind wir Faschisten?" that the key difference between Mussolini's Fascist party and the NSDAP was that the former was capitalistic, while the later was socialist.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/3vdkls/comment/cxn4p61/

[–] AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

fuck off nazi lover. make like your heroes and fucking die.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope you can get the help you need, friend. BTW see my edit to my previous post.

kill yourself. saves us the trouble of having to do it eventually.