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As usual in the comments, programming.dev chuds care a whole lot about performatively not caring and get enraged at the thought of other people caring, thus the advocacy for Brave Browser entirely on the basis of "melting snowflakes" the way thumbheads roll coal because they want to "trigger" people that would prefer an inhabitable environment. morshupls

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[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

what is actually the best "secure" browser? aren't both brave and duckduckgo ran by bigots? any people would recommend?

[–] aport@programming.dev 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just use Firefox with ublock origin. Maybe get a VPN if you're serious about anonymous browsing. There's rapidly diminishing returns in obsessing over privacy tools compared to changing your browsing habits.

[–] Zoift@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed. You have to consider your threat profile. Most data harvesting isn't aimed at you per-se, you're just in the target audience.

If you're just trying to be a responsible citizen who'se reasonably informed and likes their privacy. A decent browser, blocker, and VPN will protect you from 99% of casual grift & grime.

Unless you're planning something that'll get you assigned an Agent somewhere, in which case you should log off and not talk around electronics at all.

[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

somewhat concerned that with the increasing rise of blatant fascism in the US the definition of a "threat" worth keeping an eye on will become a group me and most other cool left wing people will be included in

[–] RION@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

It's even worse than diminishing returns—the more privacy extensions and add-ons you install the more identifiable you are through browser fingerprinting

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Probably Librewolf or Tor Browser

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'll second LibreWolf. And Mull, on Android.

[–] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Best browser I've ever used on Android was Naked Browser. Made by some random dude on /g/ and he was pretty damn funny sometimes. Worked perfectly on a 4 button android setup, extremely barebones but had most everything I wanted.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there's a reasonable argument for vanadium on Android as it can replace the system webview and reduce the attack surface. adblocking at the dns level is probably most effective anyway.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't disagree, only that I really don't like it. It comes as the default browser in GrapheneOS, and it's always the first thing I replace. It's too barebones for my needs.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

yeah that's fair. they just have a reasonable point about addons increasing attack surface. so it comes down to your threat model.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not saying you can't use Brave if that's what you really want to do and see no other viable options. I posted this specifically because of the take that it's "based" to "melt snowflakes" by choosing a browser specifically because it's ran by loud bigoted Web3 grifters.

[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

but is brave good (for privacy) or is there something better i should use

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's terrible for privacy because it pretty much directly packages your browsing data for sale to third parties, which is another thing that edgy programming.dev chuds performatively "don't care" about.

[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

well rip me ig lol

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I need more information on DuckDuckGo being a milkshake duck, please

[–] NormalC@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you want a chromium based browser, then choose ungoogled-chromium

Anything else is not worth it/proprietary

[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

right now i am using firefox with the common privacy extensions people were talking about in this thread https://hexbear.net/post/96791?scrollToComments=false

specifically privacy badger, clearurls, ublock origin, decentraleyes, user agent switcher, and facebook container

[–] sicklemode@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

There's also NoScript for manual control over Javascript on webpages, and CanvasBlocker, which "allows users to prevent websites from using some Javascript APIs to fingerprint them."

[–] RION@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can prob leave out almost everything except ublock according to recommendations from the arkenfox folks

[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh thank you i didn't know that

[–] NormalC@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

That's good, make sure to dive into the about:config and turn off telemetry if you haven't already.

FF profile gives you a de-bloated ff profile to build on.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

pretty sure its just the most widely used thing with a couple of ok privacy addons. firefox with ublock and a vpn. you could go deeper but that probably increases the chance that you stand out. iirc just having too many addons installed can make you stand out

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RION@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

I remember using waterfox back in the day when regular Firefox wasn't 64-bit yet. Good times