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[–] gowan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The word "extrajudicially" should explain that difference

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's extrajudicial BOTH WAYS you fucking dipshit. It's not magically different. Both are extrajudicial.

Why the fuck are you treating it differently?? Answer the question.

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

me every time I see this bit account walter-breakdown

[–] gowan@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because killing someone in a battle as an act of war isn't extrajudicial killing.

[–] Victor_Lucas@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tying yourself up into knots over explaining legal definitions to the barrel of a gun.

The rules are made up and interpretations are deferred until after the fact to justify the actions and interests of a state.

Any political or historical education would make this abundantly clear but Americans are raised to believe fairy-tales into adulthood.

Liberals really don't have the tools to pick the world apart, only the most educated and outwardly evil liberals like Kissinger are comfortable being honest with themselves.

No wonder you hate socialists.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes it is. What the fuck do you think extrajudicial killing means? It means a killing that took place without a legal judgement. That's it. That's all it means.

You are inventing your own idea of "extrajudicial" here, in which you have decided entirely in your own head that one means "good killing" and the other means "bad killing".

And at the end of the day all of this is just you trying to divert away from the issue - both are killing at the orders of the US empire. You're dancing around this because you're trying to argue that one is more acceptable than the other because you are a nationalist supporter of that empire and its campaign of mass murder, which you view as something to your personal benefit like a rube.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

It's a battle because the people the want to kill are defending themselves. That doesn't make it not extra judicial - not that judicial is somehow an adjective that makes anything moral or whatever

I love how debate nerds get so caught up in whether something is legal or not. News flash, laws are worthless without enforcement, and there isn’t currently any entity capable of preventing NATO forces from murdering people whenever they please

[–] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

Murder becomes not bad if a judge says "murder is okay."

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Your honor I did not murder that man, I just paid this hitman to do it. He pulled the trigger, I just happened to hand him an evelop that had 'shoot my ex wife' written on it with 50k in cash inside."

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shoot my ex wife.

"I did not kill that man".

Someone is a transphobe in that example of yours, and when I find out who I'm going to kill them (don't worry it's okay, I have a piece of paper that says it's not extra judicial)

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look I had had a few glasses of wine last night I wasn't on my best posting mode

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No no, I'm not saying you're a transphobe, I just noticed this and found it funny

[–] SunriseParabellum@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not a transphobe, just a lush

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Whomst among us?