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[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again there is no point in appeasing fundamentalist. They don't want the finger or the hand, they want the whole state to run by their rules - they are not searching for a compromise. Sure, nobody sane is really in favor for burning books - but what is the point, they won't be any happier with that and will work on the next thing that is offending their archaic views of the world.

Full expression of thought is perfectly possible just by speaking, no book burning required for that.

Where do you draw the line of what is considered acceptable form of expression?

It's not that I like, I would say - I even despise people burning books. But in my opinion, everyone has the right to do so - since in the end no direct harm is caused to anyone.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One important point is imo that publicly burning the Quran as a provocation does not just offend the few fundamentalists but all believing Muslims in the world, also the moderate ones. That they don´t get angry and violent like the fundamentalists does not mean it´s not offensive to them. Because of this I consider not burning the Quran publicly simply as normal and polite behavior towards all Muslims -especially the moderate ones- and not at all as a form of appeasement to fundamentalists.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but all believing Muslims in the world,

Than all believing Muslims are fundamentalists. But we both know that that's not the case. Moderate Muslims per definition don't give shit. Like moderate Christians don't care if you burn a bible. Or I don't care if you burn a biography of Darwin. Sure I will think you are a dumb person to avoid. But ultimately it's up to you, not my business.

Also where do you draw the line? Homosexuality and modern view of women rights is offensive to conservative Muslims. Therefore, I prefer to draw a line at actual direkt harm to other people. Burning books, dumb and provocative - but so is a good portion of art.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It´s not that simple. There is a wide spectrum between feeling offended and reacting with terrorism, don´t you agree?

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All kind of folks is offended by all kind of things. The question is rather simple where do you draw the line.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I think it´s obvious, the line is where just feeling offended ends and reacting with violence starts, is it not?!?

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I'm confused about your opinion - since burning Quran does exactly that, offend feelings - no-one is harmed directly.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I starting to think that you will probably never understand the finer nuances of things, sorry ....

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago