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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's horrifying that she's jailed for having been attacked. What the fuck is wrong with you, Arizona?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same thing that is wrong with almost all cops across the US.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The LAPD openly acts as bodyguards for the proud boys now, a group considered terrorists in Canada

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Police have no duty to protect, so they're choosing to protect the proud boys.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you know she did not start the physical violence? The fact that she did not call the police is not some brave feature as stated. The fact that others called the police is somewhat more likely that she may have been in the wrong.

This article is extremely biased. Do people just automatically assume anything written on the web is the absolute truth? They didn't bother to even mention any other side to this story.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, come on... Four drunk guys start harassing a woman, then get aggressive and belligerent when they find out she's trans, and somehow she must have started it?

This is her:

Look at her. Does she look scary? How likely do you think it is that she was walking along looking for a fight with four guys? Given the violence trans women all too often receive at the hands of men, it's much more likely she was legitimately scared for her life.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously? I don't know what happened but are you saying someone can't start kicking people out pull out a knife or simply punch someone based on their size. This is a completely bias article but people take it as fact. So biased they use words like she 'courageously' didn't call the police but instead other people called the police in her.

I am glad we now use looks alone to determine if someone might be innocent or guilty.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tell you what... I'll concede that it's technically possible she instigated the violence if you'll concede that it's statistically far, far more likely that she was yet another victim of anti-trans violence, followed by bias from the police. (FYI, trans women frequently don't call the police when they've been victimized, out of fear of being victimized even more.)

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will absolutely concede trans people are much more likely to be the victim of violence. I know enough to see this first hand. How does that in any way negate that she might be there instigator?

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It doesn't, but it means I'm far more willing to give her the benefit of the doubt until there's solid evidence that she was, in fact, the one who started the violence. (And pepper-spraying someone who's threatening you doesn't count.)

read the comment from someone who did some digging and found that she has a significant police record in multiple states, including warrants for her arrest. There is clearly more to this story than we have here. Those warrants could still be BS, but we here don't know. The takeaway is that if a situation seems clearly cut and dry... it almost never is.