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Yeah, it seems a bit strange. At least he's not a grifter (yet). Or, maybe he's just really bad at grifting.
His politics and messaging is inconsistent. He's got Reagan-era tax and welfare talking points mixed in with qanon pedophile conspiracy lines. Then makes a video where it sounds like he thinks he's a centrist. I guess the Overton window really has shifted, lol.
It's not hard to imagine how someone within the conservative cesspit would end up with a worldview that's a complete mess.
It takes education that not everybody has access to to see through the junk science of neoliberalism, transphobia, climate denial and anti-vax. It takes context that not everybody is exposed to to realise that friends and family who have always been good to you, may not actually be good people.
I have a small amount of sympathy for him. His life and feelings were being used to push a far-right agenda that he's clearly not comfortable with, making him the latest target of abuse. He's got more in common with the LGBT community than he might want to admit.
But my sympathy dries up quickly. He holds views that are deeply damaging to society and didn't seem to have a problem when it was other people on the receiving end.
If he can learn from this and shake off his other shitty views, I'd have some respect for him but until then the enemy of my enemy isn't inherently my friend.
What views? Everyone in this thread is being super vague
https://www.newsweek.com/oliver-anthony-9-11-antisemitic-jewish-conspiracy-1821632
Great guy.
He's just another rube being exploited by the right wing media cycle.
qanon pedophile conspiracy lines?
dude. jeffrey epstien had a private island where they raped children. that's not a conspiracy, that's what happened.
And to Oliver, the reason Epstein was rich and able to molest children is because he's a Jewish queer.
well that's not in this song, I know nothing about this dude, so link?
Oh that part's not in the song, that's in his social media. He has a playlist on his channel that suggests the Jews did 9/11. There's also other small hints, when he says the rich men north of Richmond have Masters, he's talking about the Jews.
welp, that figures. this is why every time I drive through west virginia, I skip the toll booths and gas stations. I refuse to subsidize republicans
Was bizarre to me that the first NPR story on this song focused on the line referencing Epstein being a far right conspiracy. Everyone I've interacted with thinks everyone photographed with him or Ghislaine partakes.
I heard that too! I had to pause the podcast. Usually NPR politics is somewhat fair, but that seemed like a stretch
yeah, between that and how they talked about Bernie Sanders during the primaries of 2020 and 2016, I no longer am a sustainer.
Because it is. People on the left Etc generally want to see anyone who was involved with his sex trafficking to see justice. But we don't automatically accuse people we don't like of being in League with some evil pedophile jew. That is a specifically right-wing/nazi conspiracy theory. Combine that with the ridiculous yet prevalent Theory among some on the Republican / conservative side. That Democrats are abducting children to drain them of their blood for the adrenachrome so they can stay young. You couldn't hardly get more late Weimar Republic / Nazi if you tried.
I don't find it a stretch at all to believe that a lot of people who were ever in a photo with Epstein or maxwell. Didn't really understand what they were doing or what was going on. Do you know the intimate details of everyone who's ever been to a party that you've been at? I doubt it. That said anyone for whom there's a credible accusation or evidence. Should be fully investigated.
But this associating of people you don't like with Epstein definitely is a far right Republican trope. And a bad one at that. Because their people are often more easily associable than anyone else. I mean we have video of trump bragging about how he "likes them young" for christ's sake. Sure Bill flew on his plane without Epstein on board. And he and Hillary both had been in pictures with them at different parties from time to time. But I never saw him hanging out with Epstein on purpose bragging about how he likes them young.
Just because something happened doesn't mean that there was no conspiracy. And in this case, the conspiracy wasn't about him having done that. But this need of conservatives and Republicans to associate everyone they don't like with him.
It's blood-libel 2.0
I don't listen to country: can someone say what he said that's so controversial? As I understand he was making illusions to Jeffery Epstein who is a confirmed pedo