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I just got this popup while playing New vegas. I don't even use chrome, i've switched to firefox. How can this be allowed? Also, this is Win10

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[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Less on edge, but google goes father actually. Google pays Mozilla to make google search the default aearch engine. You could argue thats worse then creating a notification to switch (but doesnt actually do it yet till you allow it to)

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disagree. OS pop-ups are at a much more basic system level than going to a specific site and then it might prompt a pop-up.

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In the case of firefox, its not going to a specific site, it would be that way when installed. Its like saying mocrosoft should just outright overwrite the default search engine on amy browser without asking you vs asking you via popup, unless youre saying that the former is better.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not at all. The difference here is that Google agreed that with Mozilla themselves. They don't overwrite the browser settings when you open Google. I agree with the sentiment that Google should have less influence and alternative search engines should get more space, but Mozilla itself, Google's competitor, is who agreed to have their search engine as the default.

It also comes to mind that Microsoft, again, insists on asking you to change to Bing on Edge every update, even if you already picked a different search engine.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can see many many examples of how bad Microsoft and Google can be. However this one I honestly don't understand: how's Google supporting Mozilla's competing product anti- competitive? Are they forcing Mozilla to do things they don't want in return?

I am a Firefox uaer and on every install on a new machine (or phone) I switch the default search engine to duckduckgo. But for good or for bad Google is the search engine most people use (and would use on FF too even if it wasn't the default). I don't think Google needs to force Firefox 3%-ish market share to use their search engine.

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

By setting defaults, its the reason why Microsoft was accused for being anti conpetitive by having a default browser installed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp

And why Windows N version exists

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_editions (look under N/KN in regional variations)

Its why google also for european devices offer a default search engine selection as setting a default is considered anti competiive in EU

https://www.reuters.com/article/eu-google-antitrust-idUSL4N24Y2GY