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[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

all hatespeech also has the same effect: driving political minorities out of public life, building the base for fascism to grow its roots. it's the degree of harm that varies, not the kind. so the severity of the response should also vary but a socialist society should absolutely outlaw hatespeech, just as it should expropriate private property. reeducation should absolutely follow for everyone but committed fascists. bigots should be afraid to spew their bile. is it harsh? absolutely. but as someone who's personally been chased by a group of bigots screaming slurs with the obvious intent to beat me, allowing them to move openly only helps them build power and enables precisely those sorts of attacks.

[–] ewichuu@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you believe the severity should vary on the degree of harm caused by the hate speech, then we mostly agree on everything

I would say I've been harrassed for being queer a lot of times and I've never seen a bigot be afraid, threats and punishment just make them feel vindicated sadly

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they can feel however they like. the important thing is that there's a threat of violence associated with continuing to be a bigot.

[–] ewichuu@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's not pleasant, but it's important to remember that they can opt out of future consequences by simply choosing to be different.

the targets of their hate don't have that luxury. they will always be targets.

[–] ewichuu@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

If you believe the severity should vary on the degree of harm caused by the hate speech, then we mostly agree on everything

I would say I've been harrassed for being queer a lot of times and I've never seen a bigot be afraid, threats and punishment just make them feel vindicated sadly