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[–] captcha@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Say hi to those F-16s for me

We're literally dumping decades old hardware on them just so we can keep justify buying more F-35s.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I agree.

And I'm fine with this.

We built those to fight evil Russians, they should get their chance.

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

We built those to fight evil Russians

data-laughing

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

We built those to fight evil Russians

At what point do you realize that you have transformed into the jingoistic goobers who were cheerleading the Iraq War during the W. years?

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ah, there's the fascist lurking within every liberal. you should follow your leader

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not that you have shame? But this post is literally about putin assassinating a citizen of his in cold blood with no trial alongside several other innocent bystanders.

And you tried to use the word fascist to someone on the internet.

[–] Romeo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

The people that died were fascists and Mercs, why do you care how they died? Do you hate Russia or not? This was a truly successful denazification action if you wanna get silly with it.

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Evil Russians.” Jesus Christ. As if the West did not rehabilitate European fascists immediately after WW2 and end up on the side of imperialism in every conflict around the world for the rest of the century and beyond. Many of which they themselves instigated. Get a fucking grip.

[–] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to have missed that whole ussr bit

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely did not miss that. Whatever you think about the USSR, you cannot, without grotesque distortions of history, say that they rehabilitated European fascism. They executed nazis while the western powers were giving them citizenship, jobs, money, and weapons. And if you think soviet efforts to support revolutionary movements around the globe were “imperialism,” I’m not sure what to tell you besides please read a book.

[–] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Osoaviakhim was like a fever dream for you?

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. Those people were basically brought over at gunpoint as war reparations. You think that’s the same thing as paper clip and gladio?

[–] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you under the impression that the scientists moved to the US were given a choice?

Also, I don't really see how Gladio ties into this

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you not see how gladio ties into this? It was basically the US changing sides in a war in Europe that never really ended. WW2 was about competition between imperial powers, and communism versus capitalism (as that struggle led directly to the rise of fascism). The end of the war resolved the imperialist competition, but not the question of communism. The US immediately turned around and started giving the European fascists guns, money and power after they no longer posed an expansionist threat, because fascists were still the most staunch anti communists. Again, this is why the soviets executed fascist war criminals, and the west didn’t even prosecute most of them. They became allies instead. It foreshadowed the west’s willingness to support the most brutal right wingers elsewhere around the world for the rest of the century to choke out any resistance to western neocolonial domination.

[–] Project_Straylight@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see how I've given you an escape with the second question. I'm sorry you needed it

[–] FakeNewsForDogs@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I see how you haven't responded in any meaningful way to my broader point that your "evil russians" statement about cold war military equipment is dumb as shit. But I get the sense you think there is someone scoring this debate and that you get a point for being a clever boy. Great job. I concede. Later.