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Meta post I've decided to make. I enjoyed the unixporn subreddit a lot when I used reddit more. I enjoy customizing my linux de as much as the next nerd.

But you definitely shouldn't use racist slang to refer to the process.

To be clear, I didn't know the origin of the term 'ricing' until fairly recently. I was chattimg with my friend and used it to describe my de setup. They informed me that apparently it's from car customization, and is a pejorative against generally asian men who customize their car to look like a racecar.

After learning this I was sad to realize just how engrained it is in linux de customization culture. I personally have stopped using the term, and I would ask everyone here stop as well.

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[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Im asian. I eat and like rice, even on my setups. I'm gonna keep using rice cause its not my fault yall western imperialists fuck shit up and dont wanna be reminded of it. also very western centric debate. Good job debate perverts.

[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Asian here and rice eater here also and I think the right way to respond to racist cliches is with hostility, same way we ought to respond to Nazism and other forms of fascism. if you want to reclaim the word, fine whatever. But you're drawing a false equivalence between westerners trying to self-criticize their use of chauvinistic language, and the imperial governments that enforce that chauvinism in the first place (what the fuck dude)

Funny you're calling anyone a debate pervert

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think the right way to respond to racist cliches is with hostility

true.

But you’re drawing a false equivalence between westerners trying to self-criticize their use of chauvinistic language, and the imperial governments that enforce that chauvinism in the first place (what the fuck dude)

true, i fucked up with that. my issue with this (the way i see it) is white people do racist shit, and the rest of us have to move to their tune, including however they feel things need to be fixed and to absolve them of their guilt. id much rather have the racist term and the history all in front and center. this is the history of the term, this is how it was used, and this is how we use it. I see it like the word "queer", was a pejorative at a point that's now been reclaimed.

Funny you’re calling anyone a debate pervert

takes one (me) to know one. lol.

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I respect that, it's not something I'd thought about before in this context. Genuinely, thank you for giving me something to think about.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure. thanks for hearing out my 2cents. Feel free to send over something for me to think about (about my pov etc) :)

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been a reading What Is Antiracism?: And Why It Means Anticapitalism by Arun Kundnani

Acts of individual racist discrimination and abuse remain common enough. But they are not the primary means through which racial domination is effected. Neoliberalism has given racial capitalism ways to organize itself without the need for the explicit vocabulary or attitudes of white supremacy. Neoliberal racism operates through the hidden hand of property ownership and the iron fist of security agencies. The mute compulsions of market pressures are upheld through the intensified brutality of racially coded bordering, incarceration, policing, and war. The “rigour of the system makes it superfluous to make a daily assertion of superiority,” as Fanon put it.~1~ We fail to grasp this reconfiguration of a whole structure if we understand racism today as solely a pattern of unconscious biases and micro-aggressions. pg.223

Emphasis mine. This book has helped me reframe my understanding of what racism is, and what actions I can take as an individual to meaningfully combat racism in a material way. What I'm coming to understand, in regards to racially charged words, is that the best thing I can do is navigate my life in such a way that I generally avoid those terms, because ultimately when we're conflicted over the issue of language, the true root systems of racism remain unaffected.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

true root systems of racism remain unaffected.

gaaaaah. Good point. I hate that youre right about that.

[–] NormalC@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I didn't know an (generic) Asian heritage absolves you of all guilt and self crit. I'm south asian desi so I should know better right?

Also what is your mental gymnastics. "Imma show those western imperialists that I'm not a crybaby and continue to use their racist slang they invented/popularized for people like me in this tiny niche community."

Pick-me attitudes don't make you any more respectable, you just disengaged from this topic due to your own personal feelings. You've become the token Asian that the same western imperialists use to silence this discussion.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its more if youre embarrassed by that word thats your problem. I coopted the word and am using it how i see fit. i see this as white guilt trying to sanitize something white imperialists created. And in trying to do so exert ''righteous'' force on everyone else in order to absolve you of your guilt.

ps. Ive been made the token asian by enough crackers out there. They can all fuck off.

[–] NormalC@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Imma show those western imperialists that I'm not a crybaby and continue to use their racist slang they invented/popularized for people like me in this tiny niche community."

Really beat the racists here by co-opting their dogwhistle. It doesn't matter though, the mods of this comm made their decision and have stopped using the word "rice" with their new comm-wide rule. If you have a problem with it you should take it up to them instead, if not, you can always quietly leave and go back to Reddit.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok i have no problem with that. Also if im just gonna get angry at racist shit said to me ill just be a very pissed off angry person. Fuck that noise.

have fun being angry at things you really cant control.

[–] NormalC@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

have fun being angry at things you really cant control.

mask-off moment lmao.

[–] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

please tell me how?