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@linux any global mesh networks that could replace ISP's?

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[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

How do you expect to cross the oceans? RFC1149?

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Sharks with laser beams!

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

packet radio probably, but i hope you like BBSs because 9600bps is blazingly fast over this medium

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I also hope you don't intend to communicate anything that requires security or privacy because, assuming you mean HAM bands in HF, then you can't encrypt anything.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's another big limitation

there's probably a way to use encryption over HF, but this would require some kind of commercial license

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean encrypting the data is the easy part, doing it legally is the hard part. Good luck getting a world wide multi-station license....

[–] stown@sedd.it 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hear me out - you could run, like, a sneaker-net but with cargo ships!

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 year ago

The bandwidth on that would be just insane. Pity about the latency though.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with using RFC1149 is rounding up and training enough seabirds—pigeons won't fly that far over water. Albatrosses would be ideal, but there might not be enough of them available.

Hmm. Can we instead attach mesh repeater units to the albatrosses, and hope that enough of them take up optimum spacing for long-distance transmission? Or perhaps it would be better to just string a line of buoys across the Bering Strait once Russia stops being cantakerous. Then all we have to do is find a way to connect up Australia and a few assorted islands here and there.

[–] arcimboldo@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What about IPoverFish?

Edit: IP-over-swimming-carrier maybe better. Let's get an RFC ready before next April 1st

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whales would allow for the greatest throughput, and are technically not fish, so "swimming carrier" works. Plus, another good reason to lean on the few nations that still allow whaling to stop: "Don't kill those, you'll break the Internet!!1!"

The problem with the RFC will be equalling the tongue-in-cheek silliness of 1149 and its extensions. I expect there to be a large section on "encapsulation concerns" (in other words, waterproofing).

[–] arcimboldo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

We could also solve the problem of scientific missions not being able to tweet while they are exploring the deep sea!

[–] VENMusica@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@wildbus8979 I'm not sure, I just thought it would be awesome yo have a fully p2p internet

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You want it meshed or P2P? These are not the same thing...

[–] VENMusica@mastodon.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@wildbus8979 a mesh is a network of p2p devices isn't it? Please explain the differences

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

P2P implies that peers talk to each other directly. In a mesh configuration peers talk to each other via other peers.