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[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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By my definition Norway, where the democratic government owns 3/4s of the national wealth excluding owner-occupied homes, is the most socialist state that ever existed.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

socialist state is when you have a monarch 🤓

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

They’re taking for granted that liberal “democracy” is actually democratic as opposed to what it really is - dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. Sure, the state owns a large amount of wealth or industry in these social democracies but the state itself is ultimately run by the bourgeoisie, their institutions are not really “democratic” and the decision to distribute that wealth via social programs was always a concession the bourgeoisie made in order to avoid losing state power to the proletariat, an alternative which seemed especially likely in the 20th century owing to the success of the proletariat in taking power in other countries (namely, the USSR). Watch as they are now clawing back those concessions, over the protests of the people, since they never ceded the power to do so, the power of the state.