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Does the US have zero employee protection laws?? (lemmy.nz)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by luthis@lemmy.nz to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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Just following on from this: https://lemmy.nz/post/1134134

Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'

I'm curious about how far this goes.

You can't get fired on the spot in NZ, unless you like, shot someone or set the building on fire or something really bad.

But it seems that in the US, there's little to no protections for employees when their bosses are dickheads?

Also, any personal stories of getting fired on the spot?

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[–] Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Got a source on the child labour thing? Not doubting you, but as a non-American I'm confused as to how the hell youse aren't in open revolt.

EDIT: Responding individually later. In short, fuck. In long, thanks all for sending me those links, I'm gonna go wash my eyes out with bleach and attempt to un-know all that I now know

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 13 points 1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_labor_laws_in_the_United_States

By 2023, states such as New Jersey and Arkansas had loosened child labor restrictions following the lessening of the COVID-19 pandemic severity, with violations increasing nationwide as a tight labor market increased worker demand. Modifications included lowering the age in which children could work certain jobs, expanding the number of and timing of hours they could be required to work, often to include school time, and shielding businesses from civil liability for work-related injuries, illnesses, or deaths sustained by such workers.

Why there are no revolt? Brainwashing. Child labor is part of glorious capitalism, worker's rights is hideous communism.

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You likely won't see this on the coasts, where riots would definitely occur, but throughout the middle of the country all kinds of wild shit can happen and we're so disconnected from each other at this point that it basically feels like it's happening in another country.

The union is weak is how it's being got away with is my take on it.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah... Others really beat me to it. It's pretty fucked up.

[–] b0thvar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Copied from the last link: "As of June, legislators have proposed at least 19 child labor rollbacks over the past two years. Of those, seven have been signed into law in five states (Arkansas, Iowa, Michigan, New Hampshire, and New Jersey). Most of the legislation has been authored and advanced by Republican lawmakers. However, Democrats in New Jersey played an integral role in passing a 2022 law that increases the number of hours children can work, and Democratic Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer declined to veto a pair of laws enacted in 2022β€”one to lower the minimum age for working at a liquor store and another the age to serve alcohol."

https://abc7chicago.com/child-labor-laws-work-permit-wisconsin/13673003/

https://katv.com/news/local/new-arkansas-law-removes-work-permit-requirement-for-children-under-16-department-of-labor-and-licensing-employment-certificate-fredrick-love-clint-penzo-child-labor-trafficking-youth-hiring-act-of-2023-act-195-act-687-protections-parental-consent

https://www.commondreams.org/news/mississippi-poultry-plant-teen-dies