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Is defederation from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works still necessary? (beehaw.org)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by theangriestbird@beehaw.org to c/support@beehaw.org

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This is more of a question for the admins, but this can certainly be a more open discussion.

Per this thread, beehaw defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works two months ago, around the time that the reddit exodus was happening. Lemmy was blowing up, those instances had an open sign-up policy, and this meant that admins of other instances (like Beehaw) that wanted to heavily moderate their communities became quickly overwhelmed with the number of users from these two instances. Beehaw defederated to make the workload more realistic.

Two months on, I'm wondering if this defederation is still necessary. It seems to me that Lemmy overall has slowed down a lot, and maybe the flow of users from these outside servers would not be as overwhelming as it was before? I respect the decision of the admins one way or the other - I know that the lack of moderation tools was another factor in this decision. I'm just curious if this is something that has been considered recently?

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[–] Rentlar@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world feels the most Reddit-like in my experience. Beehaw felt... different even when I was browsing it from Lemmy.ca in April and the entire Lemmyverse as a whole had maybe a couple dozen posts a day. There were real neat and in-depth discussions by people who were capable of feeling and caring, and no propaganda spam that many instances had. We had a few bumps along the way but overall I'm still very happy about how things are.

[–] mooncabbage@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100% yes. This is a great way to describe it all. I also keep seeing people complaining about slow growth but at what cost do they want faster growth? Memes that are just disgusting? Racism? Transphobia? That's what you get a lot of times (not always) with a fast growing community especially with the lack of mod tools from what I have understood. There's no connecting in those spaces just a lot of fighting for no reasons and enforcement of rules is lackluster at best.

[–] Antik@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We handle our reports daily and urge our users to keep reporting anything that goes against our rules.

[–] mooncabbage@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This and your other comments are exactly my point. I was bombarded every time I commented and the attitude over there is terrible. You people can keep ignoring this stuff all you want and excusing it away, but my experience was so bad I almost quit lemmy all together and I'm not alone. That place is toxic and the harassment is out of control. When you tolerate intolerance no matter how much you claim you don't, things get bad really fast. Even to the point to come in here where people are just sharing their experiences to try and shove it down our throats that you aren't what we claim, and this excuse and that excuse, and to invalidate us in a safe space proves my point. Also if you were truly accepting of Beehaw defederating why would you even come here to stir the pot so much? You wouldn't. You'd respect it and leave us alone. It's ridiculous. This isn't a good look and really drives the point home on why I found another space. This just absolutely proves to me that I want nothing to do with lemmy.world ever again if I can help it. I don't care if other people disagree with me or if they like lemmy.world, or even have a totally different experience from me, that's fine, but I should be able to leave that place and share my experience and thoughts safely without being harassed by it further. Just totally unacceptable. I purposefully left and the fact that I have to argue my position with someone from there somewhere totally different is absolutely wild.