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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 96 points 1 year ago (2 children)

your high school career

I mean this sincerely, eat shit

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That sub is genuinely a distilled stew of the clueless cruelty of school teachers in the imperial core

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 90 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Glad someone is fighting the good fight against the greatest enemies of the proletariat: teachers and bed times

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 76 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sub is legit weird. It's an odd mix of overly-exploited teachers with a kind heart and a good head on their shoulders sharing trauma or challenges or the frustration about systemic issues and then just old-school regan-era "kill the fuckers" type republicans complaining about adhd

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its not that weird when you understand it mostly functions as a vent sub for teachers. I used to be subbed, and it was sometimes cathartic, but eventually it was just too doomery

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get the venting part, it's just weird to me that the mix doesn't seem to lead to conflicts

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

They're probably used to dealing with almost that exact mix in school when they're in the teacher's lounge.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao, me too. Never mind, carry on comraderat-salute

[–] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Its an honourable fight. My teachers made me miserable by bullying the shit out of me and my parents sent me to bed at 7pm until i was 18.

I will continue fighting until teachers and bed times are abolished.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's be fair, excessively punitive teachers can really fuck kids over

There are absolutely shitty teachers

[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I always wonder what people's childhoods were like that they trivialize criticisms of compulsory schooling.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Now that I'm home and can charge my phone, a longer response. Calling teachers cruel is not a principled critique of schooling, compulsory or otherwise. It's a lib-brained take to think that systemic and structural issues are a result of the individual virtue of people involved

I always wonder what people's childhoods were like

Fuck off

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a lib-brained take to think that systemic and structural issues are a result of the individual virtue of people involved

Funny this is the exact way that sub treats student behaviour, but it's the critique of this that's lib apparently

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That take on student behavior is both bad and cringe, and so is the critique

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can just admit you got prickly because you assumed a criticism of a bunch of r*dditors was a criticism of teachers writ large

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm absolutely fine with admitting that, if that was your intention. I've seen quite a bit of unprincipled teacher bashing on Hexbear before and I'll call it out when I see it.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comrade I already told you I'm a teacher lol

Yes, but then you responded to me after I responded to someone else in the thread, so I didn't think we were on the same page. I'm going to chalk it up to a misunderstanding and move on

Mummy and daddy hired me private tutors

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you name myself after Foucault AND make fun of people for criticizing authoritarian teachers

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem is not that teachers individually are authoritarian, but that the education system is and can only be authoritarian under capitalism. Also, I only invite people to send me Foucault, something which, crucially, you have never done

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, I only invite people to send me Foucault, something which, crucially, you have never done

"You Foucault!" - Matt Christman (PBUH) to a tradcath

Does that count sir?

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Almost every post I’ve read on there was about being underpaid, having no support for failing and disruptive students, sexist boys who praise Andrew Tate, and having no respect by anybody - students, parents, or admin

Like, yes, death to all the stooges defending the Vietnam and Iraq war and demonizing Malcolm X, but seriously? I don’t think those guys are on there, at least from what I’ve seen.

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IME the sub is filled with libs with a purely individualist perspective on the behaviour of the students they whine about. There is no conception that there are greater material and social forces that might maximize the chance that certain kids act out while other kids are polite and do all their homework without asking. Instead they're putting the blame on literal children and then don't understand why that might actually make at-risk kids display antisocial behaviour.

[–] Fuckass@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They seem to understand. Usually it starts at home, and even in my experience parents of annoying asshole kids are also annoying assholes. Obviously there are more larger factors, but you often imitate your supposed role models. Teachers just don’t have the power to do anything about it

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They understand it starts at home but they never seem to wonder why it starts in some homes and not others. What are the material reasons why some parents are able to give their children a lot of attention, support, counselling and care while other parents aren't? Blaming parents is basically the same thing as blaming children at a certain point.

Teachers just don’t have the power to do anything about it

Teachers have the power to deal with the children compassionately, rather than blame them for being bad individuals

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah it's such a weirdly tight-assed response to some obviously funny tomfoolery. All it would take is for the teacher to be in on it as well. Start flipping your own coin, start calling heads or tails.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Right, the teachers joining in on it and trying to be cool would be the quickest way to make them stop doing it.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would literally just get a two heads sided coin and flip it myself.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah it's practically a given that I would flip a coin to determine the lesson plan, then just do what I was going to do anyway because it's not like any of them could see how it landed.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

And it'd make a nice memory for years after

[–] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Heads I call mom, tails I give you a C instead of a 0.

[–] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Get a fresh quarter you can feel the orientation of in a closed fist and either flip over onto palm or open your hand to match your call.

E: teach em early why the nfl toss is like that.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can also mark one side with something innocuous like a scratch (not even Twoface level) if hunting for a fresh quarter is too much.

[–] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh youre a coin boy? that's cute, i'm a professional con artist

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

New romantic heist thriller - Coin Boys & Con Artists