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My experience has been the opposite. I've found that the majority of users tend to lean towards neoliberal and center-right ideologies. I guess most of them are probably American, so their warped worldview has them considering these ideologies as 'left-wing' instead ๐
The liberals just aren't used to actual left wing push back.
Same!
Where are these people you're talking about, because all I see is a sea of red.
Go to c/atheism to see the pinnacle of centrist thought.
Ugh if only atheists weren't the vegans of religion
Because those of us that are center-right/right believe in less government. I wouldn't trust the US government with my dogs health, let alone my own.
Cumming to my relentless trust for insurance agency middlemen.
You don't have to worry about that if you have a good job with premium health insurance.
America is a sink or swim country and there's no life gaurd on duty. If you want socialism/communism, just move to China, Russia, North Korea, or Cuba because that shit ain't gonna happen here.
Sorry
The fact that public healthcare probably won't happen is different from the argument that we should trust predatory insurance companies.
Plus you don't have to go to China for public health care. You could go to Canada or the UK, obviously. And they're capitalist as fuck. Although capitalism will likely get rid of their public healthcare eventually, they haven't succeeded yet.
Russia is literally a Capitalist state.
Socialism is inevitable due to the contradictions and failures of Capitalism, whether you like it or not.
Those states fucking suck and no socialist or communist in the western world will tell you to envy them. Can I ask for a bit of social democracy (scandinavian governments) though, as a treat?
Cuba's life expectancy has surpassed yours m8.
And if you don't have a good job with premium health insurance?
Ah yes, contemporary communist Russia!
I just wanna let you know, I'm an American leftist and I have that exact same distrust in government. I don't want less government but rather none of it at all. Unfortunately, before that might become possible, a lot of the policies I advocate for do indeed require more regulations and bureauctats.
Anarchism is impossible, nature abhors a vacuum
I 100% agree but I still appreciate anarchism as a critical position. Not a system to actually implement, but a criticism of the corrupt nature of the current regime.
I'm not an anarchist but I'd miss their perspectives if they weren't around.
I hear you bro, It's not that I'm not against having some socialist policies, I just don't trust the people in power to enact them with the interest of the public in mind
I also think the problem with this world is overpopulation. If you have too many people, then some of them become disposable. Look at how corporate media is flipping out now that the birth rate has dropped.
It's all about having enough people to exploit.
PS: I'm not the one that downvoted you.
Socialism is when the people take control and classes are abolished. So yeah I would hella agree I don't trust the people in power to do it. I don't want to do anything about the population of 8 billion, however it does clearly play into capital to have so many people to exploit.
Bottom line to me is, no I don't trust the government at all. Unfortunately the options are the government and private insurance. and seeing how the government is the only thing that stops them from charging super sky high premiums, and then find excuses not to cover anything when you get sick.
Why do you trust corporations?
I don't, the point I was making is the corporations are unspeakably untrustworthy and always will focus purely on what gives them the most money. The government is usually corrupt and will often let these corporations do what they want to do. My point is the government at its worse, is the same as large corporations at their best.
So when it comes to things like healthcare... yes I'll take the gov over the corporations.