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this is practically a child’s view of the world. good guy vs bad guy. Russia = bad, NATO = good. plus, someone should tell her she has it completely backwards: ending russia is kinda natos entire thing

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[–] duderium@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The USA was attempting to destroy the USSR from day one, and even invaded Russia (unprovoked) within months of the October Revolution. Yeltsin would have lost the ‘96 election to the communists without Clinton’s direct intervention. When you combine this with the USA’s relentless obsession with funding Nazis worldwide to destroy communism both within and without the USSR, it becomes quite clear that the situation with Russia and Ukraine today is a direct consequence of American meddling overseas.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

and even invaded Russia

Which is just not taught in American schools by the way

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, very mysteriously even the best history teachers in the country seem to have trouble finding the time to mention this. I took APUSH five days a week an hour a day (or so?) for a year and it was never brought up. Curious! It’s almost as though the USA looks like the bad guy throughout the 20th century and into the 21st when this fact is mentioned. It also completely recontextualizes the Cold War. Very concerning!

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn’t know any of that. Naturally I go reading to learn more and find this laughable article.

lol

Anyone happen to have a non-lib source to read about this?

The U.S. soldiers in northern Russia, the U.S. Army’s 339th regiment, were chosen for the deployment because they were mostly from Michigan, so military commanders figured they could handle the war zone’s extreme cold

While the Polar Bears played a reluctant role in the Russian Civil War, the U.S. commander in Siberia, General William Graves, did his best to keep his troops out of it.

Everything I know about Graves has me screaming at that honk-enraged

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems so weird. Funding Nazis? What do you mean by that?

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Nazis were funded with American capital. There are many, many other examples of this from around the world. The Batista regime in Cuba, the Contras, the US-backed fascists who built South Korea or Taiwan, the list just goes on and on. I will cite sources at your request, but I would ask you to do a simple google search—i.e., "was Park Chung Hee a fascist?"—and a little reading before doing so.

[–] charlie@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

You could baby bird that shit right into their mouths and they probably still wouldn’t get it.