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this is practically a child’s view of the world. good guy vs bad guy. Russia = bad, NATO = good. plus, someone should tell her she has it completely backwards: ending russia is kinda natos entire thing

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[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 74 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I remember back in 2003, when liberals were able to call Bush out on his "with us or against us" shit. I swear something badly broke liberals (more than usual) in the last decade.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, but it seems like liberals have been really, really unhinged since 2016.

[–] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

for sure. blue maga is too real

[–] thomcat@midwest.social 37 points 1 year ago

The establishment neocons and blue dog D's started being as loudly anti-Trump as possible, which grew the Democrat's tent. When your hammer is anti-Trump, anything Trump agrees with is a nail.

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking from outside the US it was very clearly Trump. I’m sure there are other factors but it seems to be the major one.

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know about that. Trump accelerated it, but it was clearly present in the 2016 Democratic primaries, when no one was taking Trump seriously (and the Clinton campaign was promoting him).

[–] mamotromico@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Oh sure, I didn’t mean to say that trump was the main catalyst or the first one, just that it was the strongest (that accelerated it, like you said). But yeah my previous comment wasn’t clear.