From all the concern trolling I see in the other instances it's clear that there's no winning over these people. Everything is "Kremlin propaganda" to them. I do think a lot of chapos did go a little overboard with the PPB, but even thoughtful responses were met with the "hateful rhetoric" and "Kremlin talking points" BS. As always, it is to the Global South we must look to for any hope in the future...

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[–] SeborrheicDermatitis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

e,g., when Trump ordered a withdrawal from NE Syria, loyalist Republicans instantly switched from "The SDF are our vital counterterrorism partners and friends in building democracy in Syria blah blah" to "these PKK terrorists are a legitimate security threat to Turkey and we don't care if they boost Salafi-Jihadists".