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[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck no. People have the right to keep their wages secret if they want. It is up to them to disclose that at their choice only. I certainly as their boss would not disclose the hours or wages someone gets without permission. Are you for real?

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't like this weird culture of paying people different wages for the same jobs. That's where I'm coming from.

You're allowing them to pay you a lot less than someone who just happens to be better at corporate bullshitting

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

I don't like this weird culture of paying people different wages for the same jobs.

Ideally people would be paid the value of their labour. People with the same job often have different labour values. So that's a good reason for people to have different pay for the same job. A roofer that can lay more shingles, waste less material to bad cuts, and build roofs that don't need leak in the warranty period deserves to be paid a lot more than one that is slow, wasteful and sloppy.

But there are also bad reasons for people to get paid more for the same job. Eg Skin colour, height, corporate bullshitting, gender.

I agree compensation transparency is good but I don't think the answer is new hires snooping on people's pay stubs.

[–] Firemyth@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Sure- but it's not something for you to be able to look at just because you want to. If I don't want you to know something about me you don't have the right to know.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Bullshit. People get various wages because typically they have different skills and some are definitely more motivated or at a different point in their careers. The new hire that is not fully trained for their job, comes with no experience and has yet to master skills should get the same wages as the person that has been there for twenty years? That is mental.

[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

You’re a fucking moron for believing this. It is literally only advantageous to the owners and investors in everyone keeping their wages secret. Obviously the activity described by OP is pretty dumb but to the larger point everyone should openly discuss how much they earn, only detriment is showing how unequal and stagnant wages are.