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[–] AnEilifintChorcra@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The issue with this is the difference between GB (1,000,000,000 bytes) and GiB (1,073,741,824 bytes) https://massive.io/file-transfer/gb-vs-gib-whats-the-difference/

HDD manufacturers use GB, which is a metric measurement, because its better for marketing while computers use GiB, which is a binary measurement. So people think they're buying 15GiB but in reality they're buying 13.5GiB marketed as 15GB

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

That's not the only issue. Some flash drives have been found to completely misrepresent their sizes. There was something of an epidemic of them a few years ago, so much so that people started testing their drives after purchase (with tools eg Fight Flash Fraud). You could fill up the drive, then it would just completely fail as it did not actually have the storage capacity advertised.

Suffice it to say, the data storage industry isn't without its own brand of shady practices.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just as a side note for any reader that doesn't already know it, the computer ones are 2 to the power of a multiple of 10.

So 1 kilobyte is 2^10^ (which is 1024) bytes, 1 MiB is 2^20^ (1048576) btes and so on.

So there is actually some logic behind the wierd looking numbers.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, and adding the filesystem also takes off somewhat. That, however, doesn't explain 15 vs 9 gb

The next level is that some flash drives reserve some of the space as a hot failover as memory cells die. Some have this separate from the advertised memory capacity, whereas others may report the total memory on the device even if it's not available for direct use by the user.

So a double whammy of GB vs GiB and reserve flash memory to keep the drive going as cells die.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then you have to put a filesystem on it, which has its own metadata – file attributes and folder/file names and so on. If you use NTFS you lose at least 12.5% to the metadata so now you're down to 11.8 GiB. 😛

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an amusing side note, I once came across a joke compression program that could compress any data down to zero bytes. It did this by creating directories filled with zero-sized files whose filenames contained the actual data of the file in question.

If you right-clicked on the folder and asked the OS how big it was, it'd report 0 bytes. But of course all that data still had to be stored somewhere, in the metadata of the filesystem.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's part of why I use du on Linux instead of df/ls -l to figure out file/directory/partition usage. The former figures out actual size on disk, whereas the latter ignores metadata like the list of files in the directory.