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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 207 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My (unpopular?) solution is to make sure the rest of society isn't so desperate for food that they're willing to rob a robot.

In an unrelated suggestion, if youre in a grocery store and see someone stealing food, no you didn't.

[–] FredericChopin_@feddit.uk 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It really pissed me off how people don’t seem to realise that most crime is due to a failure of society and that if we give people prospects then crime will go down.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Preach. Harsh penalties with no rehabilitation and an uncaring system with no safety net?

If you can't get a job and can't eat without a job, who wouldn't do crime?

[–] T156@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And in so doing, they have a criminal record that makes it harder to get jobs, leading to a vicious cycle where they're not employed due to a criminal record/recent imprisonment, and are forced to steal to survive, leading to another criminal record, etc.

[–] MostlyMute@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As someone who works in a grocery store, most of the people I see stealing are stealing stuff like makeup or drinks and junk food, not necessities. And our regular thieves spend hundreds on cigarettes a week, while still stealing whatever they want because they know they’ll get away with it.

[–] FredericChopin_@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

If you think about it’s easier to steal higher value items that have a good resale value, rather than a complete food shop.

Sure, some people steal out of more than necessity, whether that be drug addiction (which should also be fixed at the root) or other issues.

The fact is quite simple that the more we give people prospects then the more crime will go down.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the cigarettes thing is a literal drug issue. The only thing that's different between that a fentanyl is the smokes are not criminalized.

We can't expect our thieves and impoverished to be exactly rational and raid the staples, especially as we've engineered junk food to appeal to impulsivity.

As for makeup I don't have an easy explanation, though makeup is expensive and currently we do expect people to wear it rather than get accustomed to what folks look like without it. I was going to guess it's fungible, but less so than brand-name laundry detergent. Tide is currency in the underground market.

But yes, while for young people there might be a thrill in the act of stealing over buying, ultimately, when we have the capacity to fulfill our needs without careful budgeting and compromise, we're glad to do things transactionally. Professional thieves struggle to make rent.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think that's at all unpopular, don't a lot of beauty pageant women say how they want to end world hunger or poverty

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

If I still work in retail I would require far more money to notice things. Since my wage wasn't tied to company profits what do I care.

Although I do remember a time that somebody stole all the skittles. We got yelled at about that one.