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From all the concern trolling I see in the other instances it's clear that there's no winning over these people. Everything is "Kremlin propaganda" to them. I do think a lot of chapos did go a little overboard with the PPB, but even thoughtful responses were met with the "hateful rhetoric" and "Kremlin talking points" BS. As always, it is to the Global South we must look to for any hope in the future...

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[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Eh, I heard someone who visited Cuba being told that the US has a lot of revolutionary potential by Cuban communists so

bloomer

[–] mazdak@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s why we have an obligation to educate Cuban communists on this matter, because they haven’t spent enough time on Internet forums to have a proper understanding

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

They may have a lifetime of practice defending their revolution, but nothing compares to the horrors of the posting wars.

[–] LinkedinLenin@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] GivingEuropeASpook@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the attitude to have. Anything else is defeatist.

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is always "we can't do a revolution here but we can funnel resources to where a revolution could succeed" but that's an edge case and I agree with the sentiment.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

IDK where I land between genuinely thinking a revolution will ever happen in the imperial core (at least in a meaningful amount of time before it all collapses due to climate change) but I think it's also possible to think, "We might never see a revolution here, but we can do our best to lay the groundwork for one and seed enough class consciousness as to prevent further US imperialist interventionism" which is different to defeatism IMO. Not that revolutionary defeatism doesn't also have its place.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

They're so wholesome

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

It's important to remember that the Settlers critique of the U.S. is not shared by AES states.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

I once tried explaining the concept of a mortgage to a Cuban and they were stunned that a country so rich would have such a complicated nonsense system of home ownership